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01-30-2019 05:14 PM
mhemsley Some of the best racing I've ever seen has been in the "slow" classes in SCCA - Formula Vee forever has given us great racing. Same with Spec Miata and Spec Racer. They may be slow, but the cars are very close in potential, so the difference is the driver. Close racing is the best. Cars don't need 1000 hp and 200+ mph to be exciting. In fact, a string of cars all following each other is boring no matter how fast they are going.

Fast cars, slow cars, I don't care - give me competition.

Mike
01-30-2019 03:16 PM
Del "But they would be slow"

But the drivers are racing against each other, not any other group. That's what I want to see.
01-30-2019 12:18 PM
mhemsley
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But they would be slow.

Just like sports car manufacturers do not have the balls to make a car that is less powerful and slower than their competitor, even if it is the greatest car ever designed, F1 will never permit themselves to be schooled by Indy and Sportscars
Pete
ps: The greatest disappointment with modern cars is this hp chase. If we concentrated on making great drivers cars, instead of worrying about the length of the manufacturer's penis, the % of car enthusiasts would still be high ... but Alfa Romeo with the 4c is the only example I can think of where any manufacturer made the right car, but even Alfa then got insecure and made the Guilia Quad ...
PSK - BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!
01-30-2019 11:43 AM
PSk
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I think they should throw away all that aero cr*p and let the cars move around instead of gluing them to the pavement. That way we could really see the input from the driver as he maneuvers the car in a much more visible manner. Much more fun to see. As it is now, they always look like they are mounted on rails. Boring.

Plus, we could again end up seeing beautiful cars such as something akin to the Gurney Eagle (while still using the increased safety of the modern body of course).
But they would be slow.

Just like sports car manufacturers do not have the balls to make a car that is less powerful and slower than their competitor, even if it is the greatest car ever designed, F1 will never permit themselves to be schooled by Indy and Sportscars
Pete
ps: The greatest disappointment with modern cars is this hp chase. If we concentrated on making great drivers cars, instead of worrying about the length of the manufacturer's penis, the % of car enthusiasts would still be high ... but Alfa Romeo with the 4c is the only example I can think of where any manufacturer made the right car, but even Alfa then got insecure and made the Guilia Quad ...
01-30-2019 07:16 AM
mhemsley
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Agree. When they make me king of the universe, just for the heck of it I might ban CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics); the technique used to simulate and measure airflow over every little part of the race car, resulting in the wings, spoilers, slits, slots, barge boards, etc.

Of course, even Gurney used aerodynamic advantages. Google the Eagle BLAT Indy car and it's subsequent banning from competition.
George for King of the Universe! King George the ConeDriver!

Let's start a movement!

Mike
01-30-2019 06:44 AM
conedriver Agree. When they make me king of the universe, just for the heck of it I might ban CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics); the technique used to simulate and measure airflow over every little part of the race car, resulting in the wings, spoilers, slits, slots, barge boards, etc.

Of course, even Gurney used aerodynamic advantages. Google the Eagle BLAT Indy car and it's subsequent banning from competition.

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Originally Posted by Del View Post
I think they should throw away all that aero cr*p and let the cars move around instead of gluing them to the pavement. That way we could really see the input from the driver as he maneuvers the car in a much more visible manner. Much more fun to see. As it is now, they always look like they are mounted on rails. Boring.

Plus, we could again end up seeing beautiful cars such as something akin to the Gurney Eagle (while still using the increased safety of the modern body of course).
01-29-2019 10:44 PM
Del I think they should throw away all that aero cr*p and let the cars move around instead of gluing them to the pavement. That way we could really see the input from the driver as he maneuvers the car in a much more visible manner. Much more fun to see. As it is now, they always look like they are mounted on rails. Boring.

Plus, we could again end up seeing beautiful cars such as something akin to the Gurney Eagle (while still using the increased safety of the modern body of course).
01-29-2019 04:16 PM
MALDI Victory is beautiful.
01-29-2019 02:39 PM
TonyRomeo
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Originally Posted by Vivace View Post
SO much going on here. Shaver blades at the front, the needle nose, then slats and shelves and cubbies and barge boards and blades sticking off every which way...

Attachment 1435706

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Plenty of neat spaces to store binder clips, rubber bands, and such!
03-06-2018 04:07 PM
Vivace Here are some very up close looks at the dozens of doodads and aero gizmos on the new Mercedes, with the 2017 chassis right next to it. Especially interesting is along and under the nose and the area in front of the side pods. It's all a bit bizarre!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=nfBOxwSNg6s
02-27-2018 03:28 PM
HarmonyRocket I think that cutting-edge motorsport's loss may be historic motorsports' gain...
02-27-2018 09:36 AM
Vivace OH, lucky you! What a great memory that is! It's my favorite as well.

Does everyone know that the landing legs on those amazing spaceX boosters that landed side by side where built by All American Racers?
02-26-2018 05:29 PM
mhemsley Be still, my heart! That is the definition of a beautiful F1 car. It's not the only beautiful F1 car, but it's the best one!

And I got to see it win at Spa on June 18, 1967. One of the most memorable experiences of my life.

Mike
02-26-2018 05:08 PM
Vivace Attachment 1435874
02-26-2018 05:03 PM
mhemsley Like I said, they just ain't pretty any more.

JaG
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