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|07-31-2017 07:21 PM|
|07-31-2017 07:06 PM|
Okay you said "...My 1980 Spider is often described in literature and articles as a 105/115. Does this mean it isn't a 105 anymore, but it isn't quite a 115 yet?"
In answer to your question No, your car is definitely a 115 chassis. However the term "105/115" doesn't refer to a specific car, it's just a made up term to ease the parts ordering process. In American car catalogs, you would see the phrase, fits 1970-1981 Camaro/Firebird.
Well there is no such thing as a Camaro/Firebird, a car is either a Chevrolet Camaro or a Pontiac Firebird; but the car are very similar and the majority of the parts interchange. Similarly "105/115" means that many parts that fit the 105 chassis also fit the 115 chassis.
This isn't the first time this happened. The early Giuliettas are referred to as "750" cars, as Alfa developed the car it changed the designation to "101". In parts catalogs, you see the term "750/101" used to refer to, parts that fit both early and late Giuliettas.
Hope this helps
|07-31-2017 06:23 PM|
So to clarify further, 105/115 refers to the chassis, and S1, S2, S2a, S3 & S4 refer to the body styling?
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|07-25-2017 12:18 PM|
|07-25-2017 12:05 PM|
|07-25-2017 11:03 AM|
|07-24-2017 09:25 PM|
No, it's not Fusi.
Are you looking to find for the Golden Egg ?
I thought Jim's perfect answer would have been enough information to have stopped further tell tales.
About 105's and 115's VINs.
|07-24-2017 06:41 PM|
|07-24-2017 01:00 PM|
|07-24-2017 11:13 AM|
Never let it be said that Alfa enthusiasts aren't passionate.
The 115 series cars appeared in 1972. While the USA market cars were the 11500 2000 Berlina, 11501 2000 GTV and the 11502 2000 Spider, some non-USA market cars included the 11503 GT Junior 1.6, 11505 GT Junior 1.6 RHD and the 11507 Spider 1600 Junior.
So, since the 115 cars were not USA exclusive, why the change from 105 to 115? Simple. Alfa ran out of 105 designations! Sure, some European 105 models continued for years after 1972 (the 10521 2000 GTV and 10524 2000 Spider being just two examples) but there were simply no more new 105 designations left to be issued. The last two 105s issued were the 10593 Junior Zagato in 1970 and the 10597 2000 Berlina with auto gearbox for South Africa in 1974.
Your 1980 Spider is a type 11541 (USA market 2L w/Spica fuel injection). This is a later version of 11502 USA 2000 Spider which is a later version of the 10562 USA 1750 Spider. Basically, your Spider is the descendant of previous versions (going back to the 10503 Spider 1600 from 1966). This is why Spiders can often be referred to as 105/115. It's a generic term that covers an almost 30 year span of 105/115 Spider production.
|07-24-2017 10:24 AM|
Sorry for the off top. What was the logistic of Spiders assembly? What was done at Arese, what was done at Grugliasco? How cars shipped between factories? What company was responsible for shipping? Did assembled cars shipped to customers directly from Pininfarina or from Alfa? How Alfa Romeo entered body/engine numbers in their system, by actual assembly date or by arriving of paperwork?
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|07-24-2017 10:16 AM|
But you wonŽt win the argument ;-)
I like to be on facts....
|07-24-2017 08:47 AM|
If you have access to a copy of the older Tabouchi book, he has noted quite a number of exceptions.
|07-24-2017 08:31 AM|
Originally Posted by gkmeyer View Post
|07-24-2017 07:57 AM|
What is a 105/115 Spider?
Originally Posted by Jim G View Post
I do not have rubber bumpers on my 1980. They are red to match the rest of the car. I suspect they were painted, but I've seen others from that year with the same style bumper but black.
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