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08-15-2019 10:38 PM
TBigs
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...I won't be able to report back first hand, but I will try to remember to post the results.

Thanks to everyone who contributed their wisdom, it is greatly appreciated!
The oil change and drain plug swap was successfully done last weekend, my dad just told me. The cross member was partially unbolted and swung out of the way to get it done. No issues getting it back together. Afterward, the only oil leak was from the filler cap, which was corrected. Thanks again to everyone who helped us out so much!
07-15-2019 11:48 PM
TBigs
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My wife is from Ridgeway.. You have to make a side trip to BRIM's Used car dealer in Kenton and get the whole tour..it's wide open. If you like motorcycles, bicycles, fereign cars, scooters etc. from 1900-on there are three buildings down town. Like 600 of them... full of stuff that would melt a calculator in value. Tom Brim is the owner and the doors are wide open ... Tell him the Wadkins Farm boys, Brian and Mark are my nephews and Mark took me through two weeks ago. I never knew about this stash until Mark invited me to go look.. Mind numbing if you like toys. Everything is open to offers. I do have REAL nephews.. Uncle
Thanks for the tip! I'm down that way often enough that I will make sure to visit. Sounds like a nice hidden jewel, the kind that hardly exist anymore.

As for my dad's car, I spent some time on the phone and visiting auto parts stores trying to source the part locally so I could get it done before I leave in a few days, but no luck. I also spent some time talking to Centerline today and learned that the differential and gearbox plugs are the same size as the oil drain plug, so I ordered their part #OP622B, which looks brass, uses a 12mm Allen key, and has a magnet. There aren't as many threads, but it should be enough. The plan is to swap out the plug when the oil is done, which hopefully will solve this issue. It will arrive when I'm back in Toledo, so I won't be able to report back first hand, but I will try to remember to post the results.

Thanks to everyone who contributed their wisdom, it is greatly appreciated!
07-14-2019 01:52 PM
divotandtralee
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There is definitely no room for a socket. I just tried a 10 mm Allen key and there was just enough clearance to get it in straight and turn it, so that solution is looking promising (Belmetric). The 22 mm plug could be a good alternative. I wish I could deliver some Tony Packos hot dogs to Pittsburgh this weekend, but Wapakoneta wins out this year. There is always a thick stack of crisp three and a half dollar bills, fresh off the presses, no kidding!
My wife is from Ridgeway.. You have to make a side trip to BRIM's Used car dealer in Kenton and get the whole tour..it's wide open. If you like motorcycles, bicycles, fereign cars, scooters etc. from 1900-on there are three buildings down town. Like 600 of them... full of stuff that would melt a calculator in value. Tom Brim is the owner and the doors are wide open ... Tell him the Wadkins Farm boys, Brian and Mark are my nephews and Mark took me through two weeks ago. I never knew about this stash until Mark invited me to go look.. Mind numbing if you like toys. Everything is open to offers. I do have REAL nephews.. Uncle
07-14-2019 10:43 AM
TBigs
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Tbigs.. I have 4 solutions. I expect the plug you have is a 27 mm that is near impossible to fit a socket on in your situation... probably not intended for a steel pan application because of the inaccessibility.

So the proper one was probably the 22 mm one in the photos which I would go with. The other options are the Lancia plug sold by Lancia Spares in PA ( this one is buggered and came out of my Fulvia and probably a FIAT part too) or the Allen type with no magnet. I have every reason to believe the ones I have, 22 mm, were out of steel pans and would be the ticket. I have copper washer.. Let me know and I'll send with a bill for few thousand zlotys or a few Tony Packos hot dogs.. goats has the same selection in his photos.
There is definitely no room for a socket. I just tried a 10 mm Allen key and there was just enough clearance to get it in straight and turn it, so that solution is looking promising (Belmetric). The 22 mm plug could be a good alternative. I wish I could deliver some Tony Packos hot dogs to Pittsburgh this weekend, but Wapakoneta wins out this year. There is always a thick stack of crisp three and a half dollar bills, fresh off the presses, no kidding!
07-14-2019 10:31 AM
goats oh yeah they all fit on 1750 and 2L pans, but not sure about yours. That's why I suggest measuring ; my guess is that 22 x 1.5 is correct for your pan too.
07-14-2019 10:23 AM
TBigs
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Uncle, NOTHING Alfa is ever as simple as it seems. But you know that!
I am quickly learning this lesson. Four pages (and still going) on how to change oil. Who'da thunk it? On the up side, this thread is quite a wealth of information.
07-14-2019 10:19 AM
TBigs Fantastic, thank you goats! Just what I was looking for. I will measure our plug as you advised (may swap next time, to avoid driving season down time), but have you tried this particular size plug? Centerline, Classic Alfa, etc. don't give dimensions so I can't compare until we do the oil change.

Just goes to prove the old adage, no goats no glory!
07-14-2019 03:10 AM
divotandtralee Tbigs.. I have 4 solutions. I expect the plug you have is a 27 mm that is near impossible to fit a socket on in your situation... probably not intended for a steel pan application because of the inaccessibility.

So the proper one was probably the 22 mm one in the photos which I would go with. The other options are the Lancia plug sold by Lancia Spares in PA ( this one is buggered and came out of my Fulvia and probably a FIAT part too) or the Allen type with no magnet. I have every reason to believe the ones I have, 22 mm, were out of steel pans and would be the ticket. I have copper washer.. Let me know and I'll send with a bill for few thousand zlotys or a few Tony Packos hot dogs.. goats has the same selection in his photos.
07-13-2019 08:56 PM
Gordon Raymond Uncle, NOTHING Alfa is ever as simple as it seems. But you know that!
07-13-2019 08:53 PM
Gordon Raymond Thanks goats! That's what we all needed to see.
07-13-2019 05:18 PM
kuni123456 I had problems seating the oil canister and then found out when I spun the can before tightening the bolt the oil did not leak. I always replaced the oil can gasket and drain pan gasket. I know that you can soften a used copper gasket but, I always have many extra gaskets. I also purchased forty oil filter gaskets. I do not raise the car to change the oil but, I wish I could have a two post car lift in my garage. I replaced the original oil pan plug with a new hex headed magnetic oil plug. I do not drive my 101 Sprint Veloce very much less than 25 miles per year and will change the oil soon.
07-13-2019 03:28 PM
goats would advise you remove this plug and check diameter and thread -- then order a couple from belmetric or wherever. The drain plugs I show are all various types from Alfas-- including differential and trans and motor
07-13-2019 03:25 PM
goats https://www.belmetric.com/22mm-metri...q5d77dfpdt4ks1
07-13-2019 03:17 PM
TBigs
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Simplest thing to do is deep six the existing plug with the external hex and interference and install an Allen type, 14 mm.. That's what I would do if it was such a hassle. The tool kit one won't work because it's too short a throw .. Just get a real one. A double nutted 9/16 common bolt works in a pinch. All kinds of ways to skin this cat. Or you can throw throw car away and tell me where you left it. Jsusttttttt kidding . I've been accused of being demented but dementia isn't here yet. How do i know.. My last stiff drink was yesterday about this time .. I think it is time to start one.
Agreed! I would love to find a Allen key type drain plug and just change over. That would truly solve this problem, but I haven't found anyone selling them. Any hints? (I've tried Centerline, Classic Alfa, Mr. Fiat, eBay)
07-13-2019 03:13 PM
TBigs
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I have the exact same problem with the standard steel oil pan in my standard 1959 750D. The undamaged cross member likewise interferes with the oil drain plug. The mechanics must have had a way around this in the day. I make do with removing that cross member at each oil change. I have not found the right offset wrench to remove the drain plug without removing the cross member. I'd love to know where to find one.
Interesting to hear. Do you have issues with getting the cross member back on when you're done?
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