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|05-31-2019 09:44 AM|
Quite a different car with that body!
|07-27-2018 12:44 PM|
Originally Posted by Peconga View Post
|07-27-2018 11:34 AM|
And yes I can see how some would be upset over such an old body being removed ...
|07-27-2018 04:36 AM|
Maserati 4CS 1114
The body in the original picture was not the original one fitted by Maserati but an 'updated' one fitted pre 1946. The car in this format competed at Prescott in '46 when owned by Henning. It originally had the only Brianza bodied 4CS and was shown on the 1932 Salone dell'Automobile. It was subsequently restored in the UK back to it's original 'Brianza' body style.
Lots of pictures of how it looks now are available on the web if you search for Brianza 4CS
|07-26-2018 11:26 PM|
Surely whoever restored or rebodied it had an eye sight issue? ... not close to right. Sort of vaguely similar-ish is all I could give the effort.
|07-26-2018 09:29 PM|
A ten-year-old thread comes back to life!
|07-26-2018 03:27 PM|
Subject car of this thread
Chassis 1114. It no longer appeared the same as of 15 years ago.
|07-26-2018 09:22 AM|
|Maser333||Definitely a 4CS Maserati folks, I can post chassis number details later if needed.|
|04-05-2008 05:03 AM|
More pictures of the Maserati 4CS 1500 MM
A couple of extra pictures taken in the 'Rosso Bianco' museum while is was still open to the public and the cars were still there. You can view these pictures through the website Enrico's Maserati Page
|03-19-2008 06:36 PM|
I don't believe, that this car is an Alfa. 6C 1500, or 1750 are higher, the 8C's have much longer bonnets and Wheelbase. I agree with your thinking of a Maserati 4 Cylinder.
|03-19-2008 05:51 PM|
There were two things about the car that made me think "Maser"...one was the overall proportions of the car. It seemed a little too small to be an 8C (even though there are 8Cs with similar body work) and, well, yeah, that is definitely a Maserati badge on the grille shell there. You can tell by the proportions and the colors.
I suppose there's a chance that it's a rebodied 1500 Alfa but I imagine if the people at Kruse turn up a record of the car it will point towards the car being 1123 or one of its kin.
Regardless, thanks for posting that photo; great to see a car in that condition.
|03-19-2008 08:28 AM|
|Subtle||Interesting research + + +|
|03-19-2008 08:14 AM|
Thank you Chris and Olaf for pointing me in a new direction with this "Alfa", which is looking more and more like a Maserati Tipo 4CS 1100 , possibly chassis #1123 before it was rebodied in 1977 (and then again in the 1990s). I always thought it was a special bodied Alfa Romeo, since that is what I wrote on the back of the snapshot. But that was 34 years ago and could be a lapse of memory. The photo is too indistinct to make out the badge on the nose, but under a loupe it looks like it could be either an Alfa or a Maserati Trident logo. See this link for Detail description of #1123 on www.barchetta.cc
There were only thirteen of the Tipo 4CS cars made in two seat configuration, with 1100 and 1500 engines (Count Giovanni "Johnny" Lurani routinely swapped engines in one of his in order run in different classes). Hence I was able to work backwards through a process of elimination to zero in on #1123 as the most likely candidate. Another possibility would be a re-bodied Tipo 4CM (monoposto = single seat) but so far they all seem to be accounted for.
There is a striking similarity between the unknown "Kruse" car and the second car above (#1124, with closed fenders), which is the well-known ex- Briggs Cunningham / Rosso Bianco Collection car which sold at Bonham's Monaco auction in May 2006 for €643,000. It was originally made for the 1935 Mille Miglia; see the following link with
Details in Bonham's program notes for #1124
In addition to the usual printed sources (principally Orsini & Zagari's book) there is a lot of fascinating detail in a thread on 4CS and 4CM on www.Ultimatecarpage.com forums where I have also posted some inquiries, which may lead to some more definitive answers. Meanwhile there is a chance that the Kruse people may find some more materials in their archive which will shed some light on things.
The only thing better than a good mystery, is seeing it solved. And I think we're getting closer.
|03-19-2008 03:41 AM|
Maserati 4CS MM
Originally Posted by Cris View Post
Or more like this?
|03-19-2008 03:17 AM|
Originally Posted by Cris View Post
Something like this?
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