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post #16 of 20 (permalink) Old 05-30-2011, 12:11 AM
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I was wondering where that car went to.

I used to pass it alot in the truck with work in matamata.

He told me a while back when i took a look it was a bit rough and had rust. Buggered if i could see it though, lol

Looks all good to me. .

Good luck with it

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post #17 of 20 (permalink) Old 05-30-2011, 05:54 AM Thread Starter
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I think the car does have a fair amount of rust and damaged panels but with the fresh paint (it looks thick) and keeping it inside it should stay looking good.

I have been reading up on 116 front suspensions and are very confident that the front of the car is too low. The PO told me he had lowered it one spline, which according to the other guys on this forum would lead to 55mm drop in height at the front, this has the lower control arms at rest, pointing to the sky at about 20-25 degrees. This would, i believe be detrimental to the handling and also fits with the PO telling me that the back of the car likes to catch up to the front under braking.
The steering is vague and heavy. I think the first thing I do will be to lift the front back up about a 25mm or so to get the LCA's back to a near level position.

Looking at brakes on the internet, I think the symbol I thought was a "G" might be a "B" for Brenbo like you said Rik. So when I get back I will pull the brake pads and see how much wear and what type they are and also change the brake fluid just cos i can.

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Get in contact with adams automotive/automotion in Katikati. He originally used to own that car, I was just talking with him. Said had modded engine, but other wise standard ish. He still has original plates if you want to re vin the car. He currently has a gtv thats had a 3ltr put into it.

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post #19 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-21-2011, 07:19 PM Thread Starter
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Reliability Problems

So, took the car to Hampton Downs, a couple of weeks ago for a thank the marshals and volunteers day. Anyone could turn up and pay a small amount of money to get a drive/ride around the track. A good turn out of cars and people. The day didn't start out well with me not being able to get the car on the trailer that I had boughed, (it didn't tilt and the rams were really quite short so needed a bit of a run up to get on the trailer. With the car being low and the exhaust even lower I caught the edge of the first muffler on the trailer, stopping the car suddenly causing my head to smash into the the steering wheel! (always wear a seat belt, even when putting the car on the trailer!!).

Anyway get to the track and filled the forms, checked the car over, oil, water, wheel nuts, everything as it should be...warm the car up a little and then sit in line waiting for my first turn as a driver to get out onto the track.

Car starts off ok, fouls the the plugs a little as I leave the pits then slowly clears and comes on strong. I do a couple of slow laps to get my head around the track and the car, then start to push and brake a little harder when I come up to the hairpin and brake as hard as the car will let me slowing me quickly but then suddenly the car was full of smoke, not know what it was I pulled into the pits, got out of the car and looked underneath I found that the the breather hose that PO had fitted to the trans-axle was dripping trans oil onto one of the rear brake calipers, so redirected the hose away from the caliper and rang the old man in OZ, to see if had even seen or heard of a breather hose being fitted to a Alfa trans-axle and if it should be leaking. He said he hadn't heard of breathers being fitted and though it was a little strange.

So took the car out again and got another couple of laps under my belt but as I was accelerating up one of the small hills the track has to offer, I heard a big bang from the rear end and then no drive to the rear wheels, so I changed gears and still nothing so all I could do is coast to the side of the track and wait for assistance!!!! Oh the noise it made while getting towed back to the pit was horrible, very loud metal on metal grinding sounds.

So that was the end of my first day as driver in a race car, bugger. Then had the problem of getting the car on the trailer again and having to use a winch that was missing a couple of teeth. A pair of vise grips helped turn the other shaft on the winch, only to get to the edge of the trailer again and catching the exhaust again!! (no sore head this time, just a little more pride was damaged) with a hand from a couple of guys they were able to lift the car enough to clear the trailer.

My guess is the crown and pinion gear have beaten the f out of each other.
I talked to the PO and he has told me that put a transmission oil in the box and not diff oil. I haven't had a chance to pull the box out yet to fine out exactly what went wrong but will take some photos when i get it apart and show you guys what happened. The only saving grace it that the car came with a spare box from a running road car and my uncle has a spare one he has held onto for 15 also year again from a running road car, that i will get off him. One box is a 1.8l the other a 2l maybe so maybe they have different ratios and I can make a good track box from the two of them.

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Hi Nik,

I was thinking about going down to that open day, but went to watch the Senna movie instead.

That all sounds like a bit of a headache (pardon the pun). I don't know this for sure but I think (someone correct me if I'm wrong) the 1.8 box should have a shorter final drive making it a better track gearbox. Of course, if you can get one with a slippery diff, even better.

I'd be interested to come and have look at your race car sometime though. Flick me a pm if you don't mind a shady scotsman skulking around your shed. I'll maybe bring along my new toy...
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