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Alfa’s involvement last year seemed to have some benefit. The team was pretty bad at the beginning of the season and continued to improve relative to the other (non-Mercedes/Ferrari/Red Bull) teams.

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BBC preview of 2019 -

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/46911169

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Today Sauber is considering full Fiat/Chrysler ownership.

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That'll be nice - a big Dodge truck ad across the side of the cars......

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HAAS is the first to unveil their 2019 design and revised bodywork. They've signed with an energy drink sponsor to share the cost, and the sponsor gets naming rights. It's a little bit JPS.

What is the fin behind the airbox for? They've varied in shape and length for years. Is it a functional vertical stabilizer, like Le Mans prototypes? Advertising space? These cars would look so much better if the rear profile sloped down along the airbox. Also, what is all the space between the engine and the rear axle centerline for? A mid-rear engine with transaxle doesn't need that much length. Is that part of the packaging of the "power units" with electrical components? The wheelbase is SO long - that's part of the awkwardness of these.

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Compare the size and proportions of the new Indycars, with their more "sportscar / roadster" feel.

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Obviously there's a big technological difference.

But, just for comparison and discussion, here are some basic specs I looked up -

The Dallara Indy chassis has a wheelbase of 117.5 to 121.5" (the range being different configurations for different tracks).
Length: 201.7"
Weight: 1600 lbs (driver not included, so 1750+)
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A 2019 Formula 1 car varies by manufacturer, but these are basic parameters -
Wheelbase: 142.5 to 147" (20 to 30" longer)
A new rule allows a bit more fuel to avoid boring mileage strategy, but that means more length for tanks as the fuel must be within 400mm of the longitudinal centerline.
Weight: 740kg or 1631 lbs, but 80kg of that is driver and/or ballast in the cockpit.

Mercedes has a very long chassis, which they feel gives extra body surfaces to generate downforce, and they feel this outweighs the the extra weight and lack of cornering agility.

Ferrari is experimenting with a longer transmission and axle design to move the engine farther away from the rear wheels. However, weight distribution is regulated by the FIA (why??), so the front axle would have to move forward.

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I'm finding F1 to be pretty strange, with all their weird rules, etc.

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It's crazy to me that every little thing, like weight distribution, is regulated. Where is the ability to push the envelope? Where is the engineering creativity in that? It's supposed to be a state of the art series.

The other extreme, however, is a spec series like current Indycar where we're all using the same chassis and aero bits. There's some ability to tune aero with wing angles and Gurney flaps...suspension with spring rates / stagger / bars / shocks...and one of two standard engines....but still...

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New liveries.....

Force India slash Racing Point
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Phew, Racing Point and Red Bull liveries hurt the eyes. Maybe their plan is to blind the competition.

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Interesting perspective from a guy who has driven both series cars on the same track....

Way less downforce, they move around a lot, they're harder to drive, they're fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=95EFRcGoR84
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It may be a non-conforming opinion in an F1 thread, but I'm thinking these look a lot better, they're shorter and more agile, they kick the butt out on tight corners, they're more fun to drive / more fun to watch....
(not as sophisticated obviously - and sadly they're all the same chassis...)

But don't get me started on ovals! I'm not an oval fan. ..unless it's the old Monza - it was kind of oval....

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Juncos racing is getting more heavily involved this year. It seems that it's becoming more of an international thing lately, with McLaren etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=i2c1IW3IEC0

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