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post #166 of 183 (permalink) Old 04-28-2019, 06:31 PM
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That used to be funny. Now it's just old.

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Stopped being funny 5 years ago ...

Why the other manufacturers have nor copied the Mercedes engine, particularly the way they split the turbo, is beyond me. Assuming here they still have a power advantage permitting more downforce, etc.
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Interesting tech piece on Ferrari vs Mercedes design decisions -

"Mercedes, with their long-wheelbase car featuring a big underfloor area and great confidence in their power unit, have clearly felt comfortable defining a lower aero efficiency in their chase of downforce under the new 2019 aero regulations.

In the conception of their basic car, Ferrari look to have a set a higher aero efficiency target and so have not been able to justify extra downforce as easily. Hence the Ferrari being faster down the straights (helped by a more potent high-power mode than Mercedes), but the Merc being quicker through slow-medium speed corners.

In faster corners, the Ferrari’s higher-rake underfloor delivers its benefits over the low-rake (but bigger-floored) Mercedes in a way it cannot at lower speeds. The way this has all translated into lap time between the two cars has varied according to the layout of each track and how well their set-up got the sensitive tyres into the correct temperature window. The car with more downforce will invariably tend to work the tyres better than a lower-downforce car, incidentally, keeping the core of the tyre working harder without overheating its tread. The longer the corner, the greater the advantage."


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D#mn, this is getting old: Mercedes takes the front row.....my RedTeam = up-track(P3 & P5).

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And I thought it couldn't get any worse for my RedTeam.

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And I thought it couldn't get any worse for my RedTeam.

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Or for that other red team - Saub...I mean Alfa Romeo.

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Not much to say about our red cars. At least the late safety car lent a tiny bit of drama to an otherwise boring event.

I've followed F1 on and off since 1962 (back when Road & Track cost 35 cents) and I'm sad to say it's become rather dull. Personally, I find Indycar more entertaining.

As Dan Gurney said, "downforce ruined racing."

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IMO it's been ruined by 2 things:
  • The engine change freeze. Supposedly to save $'s, which of course it doesn't.
  • The teams are scared of copying like they used to, and need to, due to the drama around McLaren back in 2007 ... which goes completely against the purpose of motorsport and improving the "breed". The concept that you can infringe copyrights or intellectual property in a racing series that would not be what it IS today without copying is utterly ridiculous. This was a personal issue between Stepney and Ferrari (and crazy Max and Ron Dennis) and should have been treated as one, as he stole the data. Just imagine if Lotus were the only teams ever allowed to run ground force cars ...
Currently Mercedes somehow have a huge advantage and because of the stupid rules, the other teams cannot catch up. End result is Mercedes is about to have yet another record year. Now yes Ferrari/Italians are not innovators so that team needs to purchase a key person from the Mercedes team to get them going again, like they did in the Schumacher days buying all the key members of the Benetton team.

And before you shoot me, think about Alfa Romeo and particularly Ferrari history: drum brakes, ladder chassis frames, the same Alfa Nord engine (while advanced in the 1950's) for way too long, beam rear axles, front engined cars, spaceframe instead of monocoque, flat 12 engine when the ground force period required narrow engines, heavy and thirsty v12 engines when everybody else was winning with v8/v10s ... I could go on. Alfa Romeo in racing, think T33, were considerably more advanced than any Ferrari but for some strange reason had tiny little noncompetitive engines. Simply too much passion and little rational thought
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That was painful to watch. The new "Grosjean corner" was interesting.
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F1 back in Zandvoort

F1 back in the Dutch dunes (the circuit with some Alfa Romeo history):

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Memories - in 1968, I watched Stewart lap the field in the rain in his Matra. Then he allowed his teammate, Beltoise, to unlap himself, so they would be the only two cars on the lead lap.

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"First Time Out", Zandvoort 1967
Lotus 49
The new Cosworth DFV V8
The great Jim Clark.
Great footage and big names.
Look at those soft springs.
Look at no guard rails.
Look at people standing on the track.


Sound is dubbed later sadly, but still good noises.
Great power slides at 7:42.


That reminds me - I played with this endlessly as a kid - my favorite Matchbox.
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Well, that made me smile! Did you notice that the cars slid around, making the drivers actually drive? And did you notice they did the entire race on exactly NO pitstops? Race length was, as it is now, 2 hours or 200 miles. Not sure the racing was any better then than now, but it sure seemed that way back when you could actually get close to the cars at the track.

If you 're in AROC - check out my articles about F1 in N Am in the last two issues of Alfa Owner. And I did an article about the races I went to in Europe in '67 and '68 in Vintage Road & Racecar (www.vintageracecar.com). Disclosure - I don't get paid for what I write for the former, and I won't get paid anything extra is you decide to subscribe to the latter. The articles were fun to write and, I hope, enjoyable to read.

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And I thought it couldn't get any worse for my RedTeam.

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