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Quote- more actual exciting, entertaining racing goes on in one weekend of MotoGP than has been seen in an entire season of Formula 1 lately.

After watching today's live coverage of MotoGP, Moto2, Moto3 from COTA in Austin, TX, I would like to retract my above statement- I was perhaps hasty. In truth, there was more actual exciting, entertaining racing going on in just theMoto3 race today than in an entire season of Formula 1.

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Two great guys, Guy and David, comparing their machines on track. And the expected results. Two different sports compared.


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I'm wondering when that race occurred? Coulthard mentions the the Red Bull car was the "Championship Race Car".....not much
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I'm wondering when that race occurred? Coulthard mentions the the Red Bull car was the "Championship Race Car".....not much
information on the BMW motorcycle.

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If you click on the text top of the video you get to the Youtube site, with additional info.

The bike is the BMW 1000RR which Guy Martin raced in British Superbike, Isle of Man TT etc. This version is 1000cc 4 cyl with around 220Hp and weight 169 Kg.
The road version of this bike is probably the R-bike to have at this time, winning many tests.

Here about the bike.
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocia...e-bikes-tested

Here about Guy Martin. David Coulthard called him a national treasure, so he is a celebrity!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Martin

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Nice ilse of Man TT threadjack

Moving on...

Anybody interested in viewing MotoGp can now purchase a video pass for about $80, 1/2 price for second half of season. You can view any race this season or archived from years ago.

It is worth noting that the race July 1st in the Netherlands at the Assen track was one of the top five races ever. It had over 150 passes which is rare but quite a show and not to be missed.

Enjoy MotoGp folks !

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Drag race in Istanbul some street cars, F1 , R-bike and F16

See what wins by a whisker!


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Anyone know what "super-bike" that was?

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Anyone know what "super-bike" that was?

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Yes here some more info from a local paper with another video. Its a Kawasaki H2R. Whether its standard I cant say, not mentioned in the video. The guy claims he had ridden it in 400km/h, but I doubt a street bike could go much over 300, so what is it?

So I looked it up and it must be the 310Hp street bike, and not the 200Hp street bike! Both supercharged!


https://www.cycleworld.com/2015/03/1...cations#page-6


Personally I thought the F-16 would have a good chance, but not, however not so far behind!


https://www.vgtv.no/video/164693/se-...uvanlige-racet

The same guy setting the 400kph personal record over a bridge in Istanbul.




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So 400kph = 248mph?!!! Wow!

The 'race' was so close at the end that I wonder if the driver of the F1 car was/is a known racer?

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ps: I saw a video a couple of years ago pitting a McLaren F1 car against a MotoGP Yamaha on a road course(in Japan, I think)...it wasn't even close, the McLaren ate-it-up!

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The F1 car driver is a Red Bull test driver, these have full confidence and capabilities like the dedicated race drivers.

The moto GP bikes are normal aspirating engines and the Yamaha MotoGP has 240Hp, actually 70 hp down on this supercharged H2R street bike. That explaines that this bike could match the F1 car in acceleration!

On the other side if they removed some kilos from F-16, as I have seen on other similar races, the F-16 could well have won also!

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Recently from Lewis Hamilton regarding F1:


“It's got the potential to be the greatest racing series there is, but you look at MotoGP™ and they are wheel to wheel, fighting from corner to corner.”

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Re: Car vs bike on track...
The cars have much greater cornering and braking potential coz they have much more rubber on the road. That's why you see the F1 or other race cars routinely beat bikes around a track, despite the bikes often having superior acceleration.
I'll be checking out the OZ Moto GP this weekend...in daylight hours, for a change. The Philip Island track has a long enough straight to ensure there's tons of slipstreaming and place-swapping action, especially in the smaller-engined classes.

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NBC Sports showed flat track from the Meadowlands mile last weekend. That too is more exciting than F1.

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The Minnesota Mile the previous week and the following Meadowlands Mile showcased the high-speed artistry on dirt that is Mile flat track motorcycle racing. There is a reason that American Flat Track motorcycle racing is THE fastest growing motorsports discipline currently. It's always been there, now it is getting the prime time exposure it deserves.

A few years ago a friend and I made a trip to see the MotoGP
circus at Indianapolis Motor Speedway on the same weekend there was an AMA Grand National mile flat track event at the state fairgrounds race track on Saturday night during the annual State Fair. After their day was done at IMS, guess where many of the glam guys of MotoGP were on that Saturday night- railside at the dirt track races enjoying a large dose of Americana- the smell of cotton candy, ferris wheel just over the fence between turns 2 -3, dirt in your nostrils. I got my money's worth before the heat races were over. A memorable motorsports weekend.
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Re: Car vs bike on track...
The cars have much greater cornering and braking potential coz they have much more rubber on the road. That's why you see the F1 or other race cars routinely beat bikes around a track, despite the bikes often having superior acceleration.
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You forgot to mention a very importand reason for the F1 to beat Moto GP under all conditions is that the cars have downforce, aerodynamics that press the car to the ground. This makes the car to be able to pull 5-6Gs in corners while bikes can only reach around 1,6-1,7Gs because they dont have down force! Same difference under braking, the car gets extra advantege of its down force under braking. Actually comparisons of bike racers and car racers the bike comes out only equivalent with GT3 cars and Australian V8 Supercars, and thats a bit from F1!

That said max speed and lowest lap times dont make the best entertaining racing series, a lesser fast series can be more entertaining if there is close racing, making it more exciting. That is what the F1 organization has been working on in many years, making the the series slower and less dangerous but making the racing more closer by less wings etc. Actually nobody normal would see racers hurt by dangerous speeds!

Redbull compares:

https://www.redbull.com/se-en/motogp...ll-racing-2015

Forces on a passenger in 2 seat F1= you need to train a little bit more!


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