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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 01-18-2017, 10:01 PM Thread Starter
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Any 164 parts compatible with the Milano?

I just noticed that there is a 164 in the local Pick N Pull, and on the off chance that there are still some usable parts on it I wanted to see if anything was compatible with the Milano.

I know the engine will bolt in, with a number of mods.

Are the wheels the same size/offset?

Misc electronics?

I know it's a long shot, but thought I'd ask.

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The wheel bolt pattern is the same but the center hub is a slightly different size (smaller by fractions of a millimeter, I think). You should be able to bore out the centers to make them work.

I think because the 164 was the first car designed with Fiat ownership, that most switchgear, etc is different than Milano and shared with the Fiat family of brands.
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I don/t think so. I have both and I have not seen anything except may be the abs sensors.

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Unfortunately I missed it by a day. Oh well. The gorgeous 3.0 V6 would have looked lovely under the hood of my Berlina. But I'm not sure if I could have pulled an engine in a wrecking yard.

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The wheel bolt pattern is the same but the center hub is a slightly different size (smaller by fractions of a millimeter, I think). You should be able to bore out the centers to make them work.

I think because the 164 was the first car designed with Fiat ownership, that most switchgear, etc is different than Milano and shared with the Fiat family of brands.
The 164 in fact was designed entirely by Alfa Romeo before Fiat took over. It is in no way a Fiat with Alfa badges on it, as some people think. It was supposed to share the platform with SAAB and a couple of other Euro cars, but was the last one to be designed and ended up using only the middle section of the platform. It is an Alfa through and through.
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You don't have to bore the wheel centers as you only have to remove about 1 mm. A file is sufficient.

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You don't have to bore the wheel centers as you only have to remove about 1 mm. A file is sufficient.
Good to know. I always worry about center bores being round, as I'm never sure if a wheel is lug-centric or hub-centric.

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Wheels are lug centric. Each bolt exerts several tons of pressure on the hub according to an engineer on another forum. The centre bore is there to align the wheel so the bolts can centre it properly with the countersink. It needs a little bit of leeway to do that. I took the .25mm all round off the hub using my Dremel and a sanding belt to finish them, when fitting GT/156/147 wheels to our 75 recently. It worked perfectly.

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2004 GT 3.2 V6 (Stromboli Grey).
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2000 156 2 litre Twin Spark, ( Cosmos Blu metallic), my daughter's car.
2000 156 Monza Twin Spark, (Cosmos Blue metallic), sonís girlfiendís car.
1999 GTV 3 litre 24 valve V6, metallic black, (sonís new car).

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1989 75 3 litre, written off by runaway van.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (black), now sold & living in Newcastle NSW.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (grey, sadly deceased due to fire).
1982 GTV 2 litre, red, (daughter's first Alfa)
2 x 1992 164s, (1 red, 1 grey).
2 x 1988 33s, (both red).
1985 GTV 2 litre, (white).
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