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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-12-2016, 01:11 PM Thread Starter
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Worn window regulator

Well, my replacement window regulator has bitten the dust and I'm out of spares. Both the drivers regulators that I have in my hands have a worn plastic gear. Has anyone ever found a replacement gear? Barring that, does anyone have a good drivers (left) regulator that they'd be willing to part with?

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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 01-13-2016, 04:02 PM Thread Starter
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Took apart a regulator today and now I totally understand why the window had gotten slow and finally broke teeth off the gear. Not only was the track gummed up and barely moving, the bottom pulley almost immovable but the cable itself would barely move in the sheathing. Combine all three things together along with grease that turned into the consistency of frozen gummi bears...............

Anyway, the question still stands, anyone with a spare drivers door regulator?
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There has been a wrecking yard (Gaugersalvage) advertising on eBay that they have a Milano in the yard (in the snow) that they are selling parts from. You might look to see if they are still on eBay.

I'm getting ready to ask them if they have a used power steering pump for cheap from that car.

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I have power regulators from spiders. With or without motors. PM me if that would help or email is [email protected],
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I did also find out, by trial and error, that you can replace that broken gear with another one from the same side of the car, other door. it's messy and you have to cut a couple of harmless slots in the old and new gears to take the cable off the old one and wind it on the new one. It's tricky and pretty greasy, lol. However, it does work. Take photos of your work before and after so that you remember just how it reassembles.

Also, you have to drill out the rivet holding the gear in the case, but that is no big deal. I made up a fastener/washer arrangement to hold the gear back in, but I don't think you really need to do that, the case cover holding the gear in if you put a band around the reassembled case.

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could you get one printed?
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I did also find out, by trial and error, that you can replace that broken gear with another one from the same side of the car, other door. it's messy and you have to cut a couple of harmless slots in the old and new gears to take the cable off the old one and wind it on the new one. It's tricky and pretty greasy, lol. However, it does work. Take photos of your work before and after so that you remember just how it reassembles.

Also, you have to drill out the rivet holding the gear in the case, but that is no big deal. I made up a fastener/washer arrangement to hold the gear back in, but I don't think you really need to do that, the case cover holding the gear in if you put a band around the reassembled case.
Yes, I'm in the middle of using one from the passenger door to replace the drivers door gear. And I've come to the same conclusion as you, slot the gear to get the cable out otherwise it's mounted backwards. And you're right, it's greasy. Well, not really greasy anymore, sticky!!
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could you get one printed?
I've thought about that and ultimately someone may have to get that done if all the spares dry up.
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There has been a wrecking yard (Gaugersalvage) advertising on eBay that they have a Milano in the yard (in the snow) that they are selling parts from. You might look to see if they are still on eBay.

I'm getting ready to ask them if they have a used power steering pump for cheap from that car.
I've sent him a message about the fronts but all he has listed are the rears.
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I'm sure I've got one laying around given the number of Milano's I've parted. If you still need one let me know and I can dig around this weekend. Did you see my writeup on regressing the regulators?

Alfa Milano Registry - Window Regulator Regrease

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Replacement stepper gears for 164 HVAC system are metal, replacing fragile plastic. Might it not be possible to do the same with our Milano regulator gears? It would run into some money, but the return would be (as in the 164 case cited) darn-near immortal regulators.

As to maintenance, back when Bill Werner was still fixing my Alfas, his first order of business when dealing with reluctant windows was to de-gunk the regulator assembly and dry-lube everything. He said the problem was very seldom sticky window channels …

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My writeup from a little over a year ago:

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Kevin, I'm looking for a front passenger side regulator if you have one. Otherwise, I'll take apart any you may have, to replace the gear!
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Mando,

Let me take a look, I'm sure I must have one. Just need to identify which is which!

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Kevin, looks like I found one right here in Florida. If it doesn't work out, I'll contact you again.
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