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post #376 of 406 (permalink) Old 06-16-2017, 09:07 AM
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No it bolts to the engine block - no more cast headers.
Keep in mind your car is 3" shorter then the 1600z so you may have to cut and weld.



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post #377 of 406 (permalink) Old 06-19-2017, 04:09 PM Thread Starter
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Completed the Motherlode400 this weekend!

I built this car to drive it hard and this was the first real opportunity to do so!

400+ miles of hard driving - at times flat out - in 100deg + weather between 3000-9000ft of altitude. Spent time chasing a '69 GTV, a Giulietta sedan (with a two-liter and 4-wheel discs) along with a number of race and rally prepped BMWs, Datsuns and Porsches.

All I can say is "holy f**ing sh*t". The car handled like a champ. It's not the fastest car in the field but it corners like nothing else I saw (perhaps with the exception of Conrad's Panamericana SS and a couple of other race prepped cars).

There were a number of dirt sections and some seriously hairy, single-lane twisties up and down the walls of Tuolumne Gorge and in and around Yosemite. Some truly epic GT and rally roads that offered terror and glee for all participants.

The car ran a bit on the hot side which is to be expected. I was driving consistently around 5000rpm which seems to be the optimal power range for the 1750 in the car.

Towards the end I could hear a few things coming lose, including the timing chain. I'm going to disassemble the car to clean under the nose plexi, under the hood, in and around the interior, etc.

I'll take a look at the valves and other engine stuff once the Giulia is able to roll out of the garage under its own power...

For photos, look at my instagram - brian_okelley

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post #378 of 406 (permalink) Old 06-19-2017, 04:25 PM
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Congrats - that's pretty awesome and as the Alfa Gods intended the cars to be used. Stewart Sandeman installed the Magnaflow exhaust on my 1600 as well. I almost had him rip it off again as I thought the car;s aural note was way to roary and I kinda prefered the stock set up ... but I left it on :-)

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post #379 of 406 (permalink) Old 06-22-2017, 08:39 AM
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Good times!

Did you get many rock chips etc? After all the work you put into the car, I hope the dirt roads were not too hard on her.
I drove my 1300 JrZ the other day on our flat lands for the first time in a while, and I was reminded why I love this car. The steering and handling is just so sweet.
Thanks for sharing the pix. I saw the ones on BAT as well as the ones Ben Buja posted. Ben is the Volvo brick guy and his brother is married to my sister.

I want to drive Conrad's Frankenstein SS!

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post #380 of 406 (permalink) Old 06-23-2017, 01:36 PM Thread Starter
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Rock chips happen. There are a couple of small ones from general driving - other people's cars throwing rocks, etc. From a cursory inspection I didn't see anything too crazy. I'm going to get the car up on jackstands and do some general maintenance (oil change, install an aluminum radiator, suspension inspection) so I'll get a better picture then.

The bigger frowny-face is driving through fresh/loose blacktop. I can't stand that stuff. It gets into every nook and cranny of the car and sticks to everything. I had a 1750 spider that I drove cross country back in the early oughts. When I got home I took off the wheels and removed 25lbs of blacktop gravel...

These are driver's cars. Yes, the value has gone up over the years but I'm not going to be precious about my Z. I'm keeping it off the track for the time being, but fully intend to take it on more rallies. I hope some of you Z people will join me at some point! I know most of you feel the same way I do :^)

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Ummm, you didn't have the rock chip protection film put on the front, etc?

I regret not doing that when I had my 91S repainted.

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Screw it - I don't have rock chip protection on any of my cars. And when I got the Junior Z, the paint was shinier than a mirror. I have collected chips on hood and on lower end of the rear wheel arches. Ditto for the hood of my 911. Like my beautiful wrinkles, it adds character ...
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Winter tune up

Pulled the Z out of storage to move it to a new space. This gave me the chance to take it for an hour long tear around San Pablo Dam road and through the Berkeley Hills (not too fast though - lots of bicycles and pedestrians here).

Just wanted people to know that it still here. This channel can get really quiet.

Morgan Langley and I would chat once or twice a week about our various projects and drives in our Z's, passing photos of cars we saw during the week and discussing the upgrades and improvements we had planned for the next year. It was great having that ongoing conversation going. It's amazing that it's been six months since his passing!

I'd encourage those of you who are part of the tiny Jr Z community to stay in touch. It's always great hearing from you and seeing your cars in action. I know from personal experience that it keeps us behind the wheel, too. Feel free to post to this thread - it would make me happy to see a few of your cars getting up to trouble once in a while! Anyone having any adventures? (maybe you Aussies - seeing as it's still Summer there).

Stay safe.

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You're right Brian. This section of the forum is way too inactive. This and the Giulia section are the only sections I view... so its noticeably quiet by comparison. The rarity of the car probably has much to do with this but your call for more postings is seconded by me. Unfortunately my car is in hibernation for the winter, but as soon as spring comes I'll be posting again.

Here are some random photos from last summer 'caus we all like photos.




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Hey guys

I haven't driven my Z in 3 years
Drove from Sydney to Melboune to Sydney for an Alfa car show.
Won the Zagato Class,,drove it home and have not driven it since.

Im getting inspired again.

Might let my son take it to work at the Alfa dealership to get it detailed.

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"I haven't driven my Z in 3 years"

Lol, I heard someone say that those who do not drive their Alfas don't deserve to have them.
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The best part of owning a Z is the drive. Yes, I too sometimes don't take it out of storage for months at a time but after a short spirited drive, I wonder why I don't drive it every day!

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Two very nice Alfas in that picture. My first one was a 64 Sprint GT, looking like that one, and I had driven Braino's Z all over Europe before he eventually ended up with it. Of course, at that time it was a gutless wonder with the 1300 engine in it, but still... still can't believe how little it cost in 1975 when we bought and picked it up for the new buyer back in the States.

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I purchased my Z in NL in 2010 and drove it all over Europe too. I took it to the Alfa Centennial in Milano then back to NL via twisty mountain roads and country roads in France. Even in 2010 the Z was cheap for what it is. Now they are much more in line with what they should be worth. Unfortunately for those wanting one.
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I will never point fingers at someone for not driving their alfa for a few years. Figure my Z was off the road for more than five years during the restoration - several of those my only car was a BMW wagon. I have three alfas now and it's often tough to figure out which one I want to drive. My go-to for rallies and longer drives is my Giulia - mostly due to the incredibly sad state of California roads. It sits about two inches taller than stock on very stiff springs - great option for trucking down dirt roads and driving in and out of pot-holes.

It's great that most of the Z folks I know have 3-10 cars (often of highly disparate marquee). It's a reflection of our appreciation for this very alfa-not-alfa car that we own. Our little Zagatos are a mystery to most - rare as hens teeth but perhaps not so exotic as to inspire the lustful dreams that inspire the high $$ value of a Bora or 250GTO. Still, the proof is in the pudding.

Anyone else?

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