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post #316 of 406 (permalink) Old 05-17-2016, 09:36 AM
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Things are just starting to warm up here in the North East (Connecticut). I've had my Z out a few times after last fall's valve job (one burnt). I agree with you that the Zagato "feels" quicker than any other Alfa. It grips the road well and feels ridged and compact. Perhaps the seating position and the sound influence the feeling of speed.

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... oh yeah, we are driving them ... With collapsed headliner and all. Get yours ready for an epic Z meet up.

From last weekend, playing with the Italians and a few months back with the Z at the 6th Street bridge in LA.
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Anyone know what these are?

Afra s.a.s. - Alfa Romeo Junior Zagato Vintage spare parts

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post #319 of 406 (permalink) Old 05-17-2016, 02:30 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the updates. Nice to see another Z in the wild. Those pics make the blue look luminous.

My car was originally white - it's a great color for the car but felt silver highlighted the lines of the car more. Haven't really had my car out in the sun too much but it really glows with the metallic fleck in the paint. Need to do a little more polishing here and there...

btw - I've met a really great metal fabricator who manufactures parts. If someone has a pair of headlight dividers they wouldn't mind sharing with me I can get a bunch made. I know others wanted them, too.

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Quick question.

Can anyone tell me how far back from the back edge of the nose trim the front edge of the alfa badge should be?

Noticing that it's further forward on the nose:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_R...ior_Zagato.jpg

I was going to mount mine this am thinking it was probably centered in the space...

If someone could post the measurement in either inches or CM that would be hugely helpful.

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They are the clips for the plexiglass inside the front stainless nose trim.

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On the Alfa emblem on the nose: Do you still have the holes in it from before the restoration? I can measure when I am back at my storage unit on 5/27.

Yeah, my blue literally glows in the dark. Insane color.

I do have that divider piece. Dan Alan gave it to me as I wanted to reproduce a few sets a few years ago ... I still have his piece, at least he knows where it is :-) So we should really get on it. I also have a metal guy but have been lazzeeee.

On the reproduction note: Since my headliner collapsed and I am not too happy with the German reproduction material, a really good interior guy is looking for a more correct fabric. he thinks that it was shared in period with other coach builders. So we will see what he comes up with but I thought that if I find a good match, why not make more as well?

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Hey Mike,

I'm sure the metal worker I found could knock out those repros if you want to share that piece. He's very reliable. He used to work for Jesse James building hot rods but now works at the shop that restores vintage F1 cars. They do amazing work.

That said, if you have a reliable sheet metal guy and you want to keep it local, I'll buy a set.

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nose plexi clips

How do these fit into the nose? I had no idea there were clips.

Anyone else using them?

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They are the clips for the plexiglass inside the front stainless nose trim.

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They clip to the bottom of the of the nose trim and the part of the clip that tilts upward presses against the plexiglass. I'm not sure if this is how the factory did it - but it is how my car used them.

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Ah. That makes total sense. I've noticed a lot of Junior Z's I've seen that the plexi isn't snug to the stainless trim at the bottom. I was wondering about this - seemed like a design flaw.

I just order a few of the clips. The teeth must dig into the stainless, eh? Either way, it's out of sight underneath the nose.

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Yes, it will scratch the underside of the SS slightly but the upside is the plexi will fit tight against the trim. Getting the trim to fit tightly on the body is another story! :P

Fred - Now: 1966 Giulia Super -1973 1600Z Zagato -1973 Giulia Super-1983 AlfaSud 1.5 - 1968 Fiat Dino Spider, 2012 Abarth. Then: 1971 Fiat 500L-1974 Fiat 500 Abarth replica-1972 GTV
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Yes on the clips per factory (Just as strange as the clips that hold the door trim down ...). I think i have some old ones left. We removed them and "clued" the plexi in with some caulk ... But doesn't the stainless also have a few welded in taps t hold it in place? Maybe I don't recall correctly but I seem to remember those as well ... with some broken off on mine?

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There aren't any tabs on the bottom of mine and it doesn't look like there ever was.

It makes sense to me that they used clips. Seems consistent with other things on the car - as you've mentioned.

Unfortunately, my sheet metal guy fell through. He's gotten too busy working on super high-end stuff. This is part of the problem right now - there are so many super-rich folks in the Bay Area that the vendors have no time to do work for those of us who aren't restoring Ferraris and F1 cars.

I'm going to try and at least get the trim together. Seems like that should be doable. It's not going to fit perfectly but I'm tired of looking at the car in it's incomplete state...

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This sounds like a job for someone with a 3D printer.

I'm told, this company in Dallas has a good reputation:

Parts for Metropolitans, London Taxi and Other Uncommon British Vehicles

Jim . . . '72 Super 1300, '70, 1750GTV, 2nd series,
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