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post #16 of 27 (permalink) Old 08-20-2014, 10:46 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for sharing your AR117 yellow paint color "perfect match" saga. While it's still a fresh "Mixologists" memory would you and the painter determine the exact formula of your very nice looking yellow, including your added white portion and post it. To reproduce your yellow paint color we need to know your selected paint manufacture brand and its base paint/tint mix formula including your white color portion.
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I'll ping the paint shop tomorrow. They should have my paint mix in their records.

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Hey "Mixologist",
Any luck in obtaining the AR117 yellow color "perfect match" paint mix formula from your paint shop?
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Getting on with mixing the paint

Hello Texas,

Did you get the proper recipe for AR 117?

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Olaf,

The short answer is NO. My Dallas paint/body shop uses BASF Glasurit paint and no currently available Glasurit direct cross reference match has been found for Alfa's Giallo (Oro) Zagato AR117.

Recently my paint shop loaned me over 400 BASF yellow paint sample cards that were compared to the original AR117 paint on the door jams (and other protected body locations) of a 1970 Jr Z located here in the US. This paint comparison yielded one or two close "mustard/green" yellow matches to this original AR117 paint. I now have these close match BASF color formula numbers. However, I would like to perform this same paint sample card comparison on another Jr Z that still carries its original AR117 paint on it like on your 1972 Jr Z.

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Hello Texas,

Let me check my sources to see if we can come up with a formula.

Ciao, Olaf
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Hello Olaf,

Were you able to identify a currently available paint formula match (including manufacture) for the AR117 Giallo on your 1972 Jr Zagato?
Thanks for your help with this effort.

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Hello Olaf,

Were you able to identify a currently available paint formula match (including manufacture) for the AR117 Giallo on your 1972 Jr Zagato?
Thanks for your help with this effort.

-Texasalfa
Hello Texas,

Sorry to tell you that I didnīt succeed in getting the formula.

I do know that one of my fellow Alfa enthousiast came up with a set of colourcards with the right yellow to check on my car and match the paint formula he wanted to mix for his car. You might try to find information on Sikkens - Akzo Nobel paint formulas.

Ciao, Olaf
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Here is what I came up with through much research to use for some minor touch-up / repairs.
Blended to what i understand to be primarily factory original.
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Paint blend for AR 117 Giallo Oro Zagato

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Here is what I came up with through much research to use for some minor touch-up / repairs.
Blended to what i understand to be primarily factory original.
Dear members,

This is what the sticker on the small touchup paintcontainer says for AR 117..

424E3 contains:

Paintcode 11 = 57,2 grams
Paintcode 83 = 0,4 grams
Paintcode 22 = 0,5 grams
Paintcode 62 = 14,1 grams
Paintcode 65 = 30,2 grams

Total = 102,4 grams

No further codes mentioned.

Olaf Roeten a.k.a. Zagato_Olaf, Bussum, The Netherlands

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what kind of paint will the panter use? 2K or waterbased ? or ...
Formula depends on kind of paint.
and of brand.

My painter could get the formula for the paint he uses straight from the paintfactory.
With that I had my new helmet painted with that formula. The paint shop that made his mixture coulpled the formula also with a Vespa color of the time.
So maybe also look at other italian makes in the time period. name on color may differ, but recipe the same..
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what kind of paint will the panter use? 2K or waterbased ? or ...
Formula depends on kind of paint.
and of brand.

My painter could get the formula for the paint he uses straight from the paintfactory.
With that I had my new helmet painted with that formula. The paint shop that made his mixture coulpled the formula also with a Vespa color of the time.
So maybe also look at other italian makes in the time period. name on color may differ, but recipe the same..
Hello Veep,

That is probably because we are in Europe and still use the (for example old Sikkens) paintcodes that are available or were updated to new paintsystems. My painter had no problem getting the formula for AR 117 and the colour is spoton. But the label on the touchup bottle shows that he didn't reveal the true Sikkens or other manufacturers formula.

Ciao, Olaf

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