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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-24-2006, 05:22 AM Thread Starter
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what is this car?

I am going to be visiting museo storico in October with my wife and my son, as I have been aching to go there for a long time. After seeing so many of the exhibits in photos over the years it is simply a must-see museum for me on this trip.

One car that has elluded me to an identity is on this page -

http://www.alfaowner.com/Forum/aogal...to/584/cat/545

I cant seem to copy and paste the image i'm afraid, but i'm hoping someone knows exactly what it is. I think I might have seen an image of it, taken at last years Villa d'este concours and I have an incling that it was destined to become the 105 series replacement for the 101 Giulia SS... Is this remotely correct?

Love to hear what you guys can tell me. No doubt there's someone out there who's been to the museum at Arese and has read the plaque! Any hints or tips for visiting the place?
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The car that catched your attention, indeed displayed at the museum, is a 1964 proposal of Giugiaro on Bertone's behalf, called Giulia Sport Speciale. It might
have been a replacement for the 101 Giulia SS, as you correctly guessed.

As you can see, the front mixes some elements from the Giulia GT (fenders upper line) with an anticipation of the yet-to-come Alfetta GT.

The rear section instead is less convincing (IMHO) and includes a rear window taken from the Testudo prototype.

It remained a prototype.
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Thanks gtv2000! Is there anywhere I can see more pictures of it on the web?
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It's a beautiful car, some of the nose elements remind me of the first Grifos. I too would like to see some better photos of it. What a pity it remained a one-off.

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what is this car?

Reminds me of a Series I Chevrolet Camaro with "our" grille stuck in the middle instead of the bowtie.
I always wondered where GM design came up with the idea for that car!
Any pictures of the back view? I wonder if GM copied that too?

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Thanks gtv2000! Is there anywhere I can see more pictures of it on the web?
Well, I can't say. It's illustrated in some Alfa books, including the quite cheap Alfetta GT edited by Nada in Milan. As I remembered it was in that book, it took me only a couple of minutes to get back to pic and description.

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its got bags of FIAT Dino Coupe in it!

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Max, you're right! I never noticed....
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It's a beautiful car, some of the nose elements remind me of the first Grifos. I too would like to see some better photos of it. What a pity it remained a one-off.

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I agree with you Alex. I think it's one of the best Alfa designs ever, if not the best. Here are some pics of her from my Alfa Museo visit.
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More than a touch of Montreal and Miura in the trailing edge of the door and window profile eh?

Thanks for those photos Nino1969, and tips for visiting the Museum? Is it neccesary to book?
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You have to call first, before you go. If I remember well the museo is open from 9:00 - 12:30 & 14:00 - 16:30.
When I was there with my wife, we were the only visitors!!

“Alfa Romeo is not merely a maker of automobiles : it truly is something more than a conventionally built car. It is a kind of affliction, an enthusiasm for a means of transport. It is a way of living, a very special way of perceiving the motor vehicle. What it is resists definition. Its elements are like those irrational character traits of the human spirit which cannot be explained in logical terms. They are sensations, passions, things that have much more to do with man’s heart than with his brain”.
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Also you can do this, although it is forbidden!!
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“Alfa Romeo is not merely a maker of automobiles : it truly is something more than a conventionally built car. It is a kind of affliction, an enthusiasm for a means of transport. It is a way of living, a very special way of perceiving the motor vehicle. What it is resists definition. Its elements are like those irrational character traits of the human spirit which cannot be explained in logical terms. They are sensations, passions, things that have much more to do with man’s heart than with his brain”.
Orazio Satta

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giulia 1300 ti, '67
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nino1969,

As I recall that is the car with the "Paris" badge on front. It is a recreation and, to the dismay of the PR man who took us on a tour of the museum (back when all visitors were provided with a tour guide), it has vinyl rather than leather upholstory.

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Even the finger plates look like the same ones on the Grifo. I just love it!! I wonder how much it would cost to commission a body on a Sprint GT chassis, find some glass, make one from scratch ....

And that looks like a GTA-SA engine in the background, doesn't it? I've never known why no-one has the gumption to race with one of those fitted (yeah, I know they're rare), wouldn't it be acceptable to the various homologation authorities?

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