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Those who have shipped from italy to USA. Could you so kindly post your export agents and shipping companies? Also could you state whether it was done VIA roro or container.
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There is some RORO through Naples and Livorno. But i want to make sure if there are any other ports that i might have missed and would like to hear from those who have used them. That is sort of why I am posting this up here.
It might be helpful for other users that run into a car that they want to ship out from italy.
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Hello ,
My name is Gianni Visconti
Just moved here in the united states from france
I am specialized in importing and exporting cars from europe.
You should Email me or text me if you would like any info!
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Hey Guys,
Those who have shipped from italy to USA. Could you so kindly post your export agents and shipping companies? Also could you state whether it was done VIA roro or container.
Thanks!
As someone who has imported cars from the US to Europe, may I counsel that RORO risks things going missing? I would suggest that you consider carefully the value of what you are importing and containerising anything precious, or at least removing anything valuable and easily stolen.

I have had an original XKE toolkit and jack go missing as well as some original paperwork and XKE parts. I know people who have lost, for example, the Spirit of Ecstasy from a 50s RR. It may seem trivial but these things are almost always irreplaceable without spending $000's.

OTOH, maybe Italian dockers (longshoremen?) are more honest than American or British ones ?

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I would never ship from Italy.

Drive to Amsterdam and ship from there.

But pull off any badges that are unique to the car, as they may disappear on the US end.

And by the way, don't use your car as a shipping container either!
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If you ship RORO a reputable company will always caution you about not leaving things of value in your car. This is pretty much SOP regardless of the company you use. Nonetheless, when I picked up my Super at the port of Galveston there was a pissed off guy who'd had a bunch of stuff stolen from his car. The Wilhelmsen guys tried to explain their policy about this but he was having none of it, blaming everybody for his lost stuff. Turned out he's shipped the car through a military shipping broker who'd subbed the job to Wilhelmsen and the broker hadn't warned his customer about not leaving stuff in his car.

I shipped my Super direct on a Wilhelmsen RORO out of Zebrrugge and found the company to provide excellent service from start to finish. In particular, when I called their Amsterdam office the alerted all the other offices in the chain leading to the Galveston facility. I've shipped cars in containers and on RORO ships. If the company is well run, putting an Alfa on a RORO ship is an entirely safe way to ship a car. One thing I'd strongly recommend, however, is that you purchase some comprehensive 3rd party insurance for the shipment. It's not very expensive and you probably won't need it, but if your car is damaged the shipper's insurance only applies if the ship sinks. (!)

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Agree with Jim, except to say that someone stole two cloverleaf badges off my GTV6 Grand Prix somewhere between Amsterdam and Baltimore. I would have been upset, but for the fact that the badges didn't belong on the car anyway!

Dockworkers do grab these as souvenirs. The more unusual your badge is, the more likely it is to be grabbed. The cloverleafs were cool. I still don't know what they were off of and they looked good on my silver GTV6. Still no harm as I would have taken them off anyway.
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Since you live in Kansas City, you're best bet is to ship to either Huston or Galveston (for RORO). You can always pick up the car at the port of entry shipper's office or, although it'll be pretty expensive, you can have your car shipped to you "in bond" where it will be cleared by your local customs office. If it were me I'd come down with a trailer and pick it up. The fewer hand that are on your car the better.

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As a supplement to this thread, as Italy has gone all digital for car titles and registrations (Targas and Certificatos), how are Italy "exporters" getting hard copies of titles for DMV purposes? US Customs is accepting the electronic ownership papers, but your local dmv will not embrace them.
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Hi hans2, I did an import recently, with the new electronic title, and we just used the printout of the electronic title without issues.

Also, the DMV in the states didn't blink when I showed them the printed paperwork. Maybe it depends on DMV to DMV but you should probably have the bill of sale with you.

Also, my DMV didn't ask for translated copies.

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Hey Guys,
Those who have shipped from italy to USA. Could you so kindly post your export agents and shipping companies? Also could you state whether it was done VIA roro or container.
Thanks!
Hi Longlivekel,

Without knowing what car you are planning on bringing to the US, and locations (italy and US) it's hard to suggest. Also budget is important.

As many have mentioned, you should take precautions when shipping RO-RO. It's cheaper, and faster, but often things go missing, so make sure to leave the bare minimum in the car. Also, insure the car for the shipping route, and take photos of it when it's at the docks before it leaves.

I can recommend a shipping line, and import/export broker, based on my recent experience, may be helpful based on your location/budget.

Also, I disagree with the naysayers of shipping from Italy. There are risks even just trucking a car from Italy to the Netherlands for that matter...

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Hey Guys,
Those who have shipped from italy to USA. Could you so kindly post your export agents and shipping companies? Also could you state whether it was done VIA roro or container.
Thanks!
As someone who has imported cars from the US to Europe, may I counsel that RORO risks things going missing? I would suggest that you consider carefully the value of what you are importing and containerising anything precious, or at least removing anything valuable and easily stolen.

I have had an original XKE toolkit and jack go missing as well as some original paperwork and XKE parts. I know people who have lost, for example, the Spirit of Ecstasy from a 50s RR. It may seem trivial but these things are almost always irreplaceable without spending $000's.

OTOH, maybe Italian dockers (longshoremen?) are more honest than American or British ones <img src="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smilie" class="inlineimg" />?

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it is more common for the things to go missing during the auto transport to and from the port.
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You can also choose to go with Florida Transporter. They too provide international shipping service and are worth hiring. A friend of mine has a great experience with them.
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Hello,

I am starting the process of trying to locate an Alfa in Italy, or in Europe. Once I have located the car, is there a European service available to do a pre-purchase inspection? The internet photos of some of these cars are incomplete at best, they don't show the underside of the car or give much detail on the history of the car (storage? accidents? bodywork? engine work? etc). Also the mileage on some of these cars is suspect (is it 65,000 km or 165,000 km?). A PPI would answer a lot of questions, and I would proceed accordingly.
I would appreciate any suggestions you might have to offer.

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