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GTA/GTAm leather rim steering wheel

In another thread I asked is anyone reproducing this steering wheel. Better we discuss here.
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Momo Jacky Ickx?
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Armature frame is the same as Jackie ickx as well as Gilles V. Ickx differs by having leather on the bottom spoke. Gilles has doesn’t have it on the bottom spoke like the one on the pic but have knurled backside finger grips

I have a variant of the same frame on my gtv except it has the wrap middle spoke ickx and standard 6 screw instead of the 7 of the alfa.

All same frame I recall with a twist to market them differently. Italian vendors often share the same subcontractors.
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Armature frame is the same as Jackie ickx as well as Gilles V. Ickx differs by having leather on the bottom spoke. Gilles has doesn’t have it on the bottom spoke like the one on the pic but have knurled backside finger grips

I have a variant of the same frame on my gtv except it has the wrap middle spoke ickx and standard 6 screw instead of the 7 of the alfa.

All same frame I recall with a twist to market them differently. Italian vendors often share the same subcontractors.
What about over all diameter and grip diameter. ARGTAreg suggested, in another thread, that the AD wheel as shown was 354 mm. Some Jacky I say 360 mm.

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Anyway, I really like it! Looks great without the wrap on the bottom spoke. But, the Ickx one is good too. I prefer the stiffer solid spokes to the Prototipo et al with perfortions in the spokes.
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What about over all diameter and grip diameter. ARGTAreg suggested, in another thread, that the AD wheel as shown was 354 mm. Some Jacky I say 360 mm.

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Iím not sure, some momoís arenít pure round circles and some have extended thumbs and hand grips. Many times they arenít so specific and round it off the nearest 10 or 5mms.

Difficult to say other than the old momo catalogues that says specially were they are measured. they used to show the section of the rim as well. Most folks assume the are just round but they arenít all round. So the size and SHAPE of the section which is often overlooked plays a roll in how they feel even though they share the same frame.

I have 2 or 3 of these armatures. Thinnest version is the ferrari one off my old 308 Gt4 (not 308 or boxer) of this frame. Its quite a bit thinner than the a mid year prototipo which is again thinner than a ickx but itís 356...6mm overall diameter larger than my middie protoptio at 350 or the other 3 spoke at 348mm with the thickest section.

My gtv is in storage which has a black spoke version but Iím thinking itís near ickx thickness.

I am actually more interested in the earlier leather ones without the slight dish as in the pic. I see the on period photos on the 33ís, stradales gtam, and gtam-jís than have the small black Gta horn button.

Is it a possibility that some of these factory AD cars may have been retrofitted with later type dished wheels adapted to the seven hole hubs afterwards that once had flat spokes momoís ? I see pics of targa florio circa 72-76 that have wheels similar to your picture.

Were is that expert markgtv when u need him? :-).
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In my post about Autodelta (Momo) steering wheel, I have made unintentional error, inverting last numbers of the indicated value, for diameter of Momo wheel. Instead of 34,5 cm declared, there should be 35,4 cm (14 inches). Please correct that. I have controlled the measure of the wheel on Autodelta prepared 1300 GTAJ, and it is the same 35,5 cm, though the wheel was not Momo, but Roberto Fusina. It is known fact that Fusina seats and steering wheels were sometimes used indistinctly on Autodelta cars.
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I think al constenio’s gtam had a Fusina. I have a fusina as well but not the same as your pic. It has a thinner rim section and crosshatch stitching. I’ve seen them on some TF cars. Is the last picture a fusina?
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I think al constenioís gtam had a Fusina. I have a fusina as well but not the same as your pic. It has a thinner rim section and crosshatch stitching. Iíve seen them on some TF cars. Is the last picture a fusina?
Yes, 1970 Autodelta, 7760xx
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From here you stole the pic and faked it: https://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/pic...00-junior.html
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It's great how every GTA thread spins down into the same abyss.
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The registration papers are a fake, too, easy to identify when compared with original ones. I wonder what legal choices Swiss authorities have with guys who counterfeit their documents, even when expired.
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whats going on? why are folks faking ID numbers for car that arent their's?.... strange
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