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I had a look at the web site. The auction in Saturday 18 march 2017 14:30
by Aguttes Lyon.

This GTA is white (said original white) although they say it was once red and also show pictures said to be 613526 in red doing some racing (hillclimbs??) (I note a blacked out License plate in one picture?) and parked in front of a garage that may be the same as is seen the white GTA. Apparently it has lost its original engine block.

Alleggerita 2nd ed. Only listed the s/n and gives no other info.

Here's What Aguttes Lyon say:
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The car on offer, chassis n° AR 613526, was delivered to her first owner in July 1965 by GAP in the Loire-Atlantique region. At the end of 1966, she was sold to an Alfa enthusiast living in the Cher region who already had several other Alfas in his garage. The GTA participated in several local hillclimb competitions, such as Marsannay in 1968 and Haut Cantal in 1969, as well as one at Aosta in northern Italy in 1969. She was originally white but photos from this period show that she had been repainted in red and had been prepared by Baseli GTA.

Unfortunately, the owner was killed in 1972 in a road accident while driving his commercial van.
The GTA continued to be driven by his wife just for short trips until 1975, when it ceased to be used on the road, as is shown by the annual license sticker on the windscreen.
When the present owner bought the car in 1984, she had not turned a wheel for nine years but she was still very well preserved. Both Alfa specialist and historic racing enthusiast, he planned to prepare the car for the track, but a lack of time and the maintenance of the other cars in his collection prevented him from going through with this project.

So in the end, and this is a real stroke of luck, this GTA has remained in its exact original specification. This means that she still has her twin-spark 1600 cc engine (with camshaft covers, magnesium sump and the extremely rare original Weber 45 DCOE14 carburettors), as well as other specific GTA components such as the close-ratio 5-speed gearbox, the rear axle, the propeller shafts, the coolant and oil radiators, the six inch wide Campagnolo alloy wheels and the rare original GTA seats.

With sale in view, the car has simply been repainted in its original white, which is extremely rare, as the vast majority of the 501 cars produced were painted red.

The engine (which is not the original unit but an absolutely identical block which was already in the car when she changed hands in 1984) has been overhauled by an Alfa specialist in the Aisne département (invoices supplied). The brakes have been renovated with new discs, calipers, master-cylinder and pressure limiter. The clutch, shock-absorbers and rear springs have been replaced.

To find an Alfa Romeo GTA which is 100% authentic, never crashed, remarkably well preserved, with a comprehensive and clear history and in excellent condition with all necessary work done, is so rare for such a model as to be almost a miracle.

The next owner of this machine, designed for competition, particularly polyvalent and competitive, will be able to use all its potential in numerous different contexts, such as the Tour Auto organized by Peter Auto, any number of track events, sprints, etc or simply enjoy invigorating drives on country roads.

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1970 Giulia Super (CDN Spec)
1976 1600 GTj (Italian Spec)
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2000 Catalina 320, Hull #765 Northern Dream
2001 BMW Z3 3.0i

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@kengta, Hello,
Just for my personal knowledge ; you said that the original engine is missing because it's not write in the description, or because you see that when you are looking at the engine bay ?

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@kengta, Hello,
Just for my personal knowledge ; you said that the original engine is missing because it's not write in the description, or because you see that when you are looking at the engine bay ?

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Hi Chris, this is what I read in the description: The engine (which is not the original unit but an absolutely identical block which was already in the car when she changed hands in 1984) has been overhauled by an Alfa specialist in the Aisne département (invoices supplied). The brakes have been renovated with new discs, calipers, master-cylinder and pressure limiter. The clutch, shock-absorbers and rear springs have been replaced.

Maybe it is a GTA block but they do not give a Serial number for us to know.

Maybe there is a way to ask about the engine number? Also would be nice to see a picture of the serial number.

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1965 GTA, RHD, Stradale
ex- 1965 GTA, RHD, Corsa, Trans/Am 66-72
1964 Sprint GT, B-Sedan in 70's
1970 Giulia Super (CDN Spec)
1976 1600 GTj (Italian Spec)
1966 Harley Sprint (Aermacchi) 250
2000 Catalina 320, Hull #765 Northern Dream
2001 BMW Z3 3.0i

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Thank you Ken.

I am sure it's a correct GTA engine, because the car is known here. But I never saw the car with my eyes.
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Thank you Ken.

I am sure it's a correct GTA engine, because the car is known here. But I never saw the car with my eyes.
Hi, well if they changed the engine it could have got a 10502 or other 1600 block or no serial number block as a replacement.

Is it also known "there" about the repaint and racing as red as claimed in the Auction notes?

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ex- 1965 GTA, RHD, Corsa, Trans/Am 66-72
1964 Sprint GT, B-Sedan in 70's
1970 Giulia Super (CDN Spec)
1976 1600 GTj (Italian Spec)
1966 Harley Sprint (Aermacchi) 250
2000 Catalina 320, Hull #765 Northern Dream
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Hi Ken,

nice car, with patina, genuine Autodelta tachometer(rpm marked in red) but without the oilcooler, alternator instead of generator, no magnesium valve cover, headers looking not original.The hole for the generator cutoff is still visible. Without changing back to the white, it would be perfect. Hopefully the floor covers are still with the car.
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That could be the deal, estimated with 250.000 to 350.000, but not sold.
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I contacted the Auction House about the engine and chassis serial numbers and got a few pictures back.

So it now has GTA engine AR00502/A*18873* and the riveted on FRANCAIS ALFA ROMEO plate would indicate the original engine would have been AR00502/A*19353*

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1965 GTA, RHD, Stradale
ex- 1965 GTA, RHD, Corsa, Trans/Am 66-72
1964 Sprint GT, B-Sedan in 70's
1970 Giulia Super (CDN Spec)
1976 1600 GTj (Italian Spec)
1966 Harley Sprint (Aermacchi) 250
2000 Catalina 320, Hull #765 Northern Dream
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That could be the deal, estimated with 250.000 to 350.000, but not sold.
Looks like NOT SOLD all right, as the web site indicates SOLD amount for the lots sold.

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1965 GTA, RHD, Stradale
ex- 1965 GTA, RHD, Corsa, Trans/Am 66-72
1964 Sprint GT, B-Sedan in 70's
1970 Giulia Super (CDN Spec)
1976 1600 GTj (Italian Spec)
1966 Harley Sprint (Aermacchi) 250
2000 Catalina 320, Hull #765 Northern Dream
2001 BMW Z3 3.0i
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