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post #16 of 68 (permalink) Old 01-13-2014, 08:05 PM
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Prototipo 1.5 16V cORSA , one of only 2 in existence built by AUTODELTA
note that inlet has steel plenum not FRP as used on GTAm but retains guillotine slide injection
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post #17 of 68 (permalink) Old 01-14-2014, 05:24 AM
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Same Giulia Sprint GT 1500 16V Iniezione?

Hello GTV6SA,

What strikes me about your last photograph is the startnumber on the door. If I am correct, it reads # 32. That is the same number as on door of the Giulia Sprint 1500 16V Iniezione in the photographs of Coys. Could this be the same car? I'll check for other similarities. Source of the photograph is Coys.

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It may be the same car, as COYS sold one of the other cars from the same collection
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Nik from Coys here. Due the scarcity of information and lack of photographs of any quality at all some of the photographs on line are archive Pictures. We are waiting for the owner and the car and itīs histyory file. I will keep alfabb posted as the history file is in the car on a truck. Usually we want all the documentation to catalogue the car early but this car was entered in the very last minute.

Chassis number on the Giulia Sprint Gt is AR603142

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Hello Nik,

Did you have the chance to add information concerning AR 603142?
I am very curious as to what the documentation, that is with the car, has to say.
The info on the Coys website is the same at the time of writing.

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Links to power boat engines

Dear members,


Please have a look at this thread and at the links that are in it:
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/gta-...acer-boat.html

And this link where the 1500cc "Marine" engine is mentioned.
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/122249-post17.html


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No change in the text on the Coys webiste

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Nik from Coys here. Due the scarcity of information and lack of photographs of any quality at all some of the photographs on line are archive Pictures. We are waiting for the owner and the car and itīs histyory file. I will keep alfabb posted as the history file is in the car on a truck. Usually we want all the documentation to catalogue the car early but this car was entered in the very last minute.

Chassis number on the Giulia Sprint Gt is AR603142

Nik
Goodmorning Nik & members,

Saturday morning 09.00 hours Amsterdam local time, still the same text on the Coys website.
The car is going to be auctioned today. The auction will start at 14.00 hours local time.

Ciao, Olaf

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post #22 of 68 (permalink) Old 01-18-2014, 05:41 AM
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I find it a bit strange that potentially such an important car enters the auction "at the last minute" surely that defeat the object of achieving the highest price especially if there is documentary evidence that this is one of the prototypes as some as suggesting or am I just too suspicious by nature?
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Hi,

Car sold at 87K euro's at the auction.

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I find it stiff. For essentially a sprint gt with add ons.
Otoh, I do know what such an engine will set you back.... the head alone costs a fortune.
So perhaps someone with a derelict gta will use these parts. Wonder where it is sold to....


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Fresh photographs

Hello members,


I had the opportunity to make some fresh photographs of the Giulia Sprint GT 1500 16V Iniezione today. Have a look at them.

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More pictures

Hello members,

Some engine details.

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This car will only increase in value due to its rarity especially as its configuration is in original Autodelta trim not "add ons"as mentioned above. This 1.5 litre 16V engine had an output of 196 hp which in a 1600 shell is very powerful for the era.I'm sure people do not realise its true value yet. I"ve know of the existence of this car for more than 20 years and it has been hidden away from the public.
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Gtv6, could you tell me when it was built at autodelta then? And perhaps shine a light on why they would have picked an obsolete Sprint GT shell instead of a 1750 mk1 , or gta shell? As far as I believe, the 16v head is rather a late development.
Believe me I really like the car, but I find it obscure and strange.


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If all is as stated, the price is a steal.
If all is not as stated, it is still not too much, but stiff.


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16V engines have been used by Autodelta since the 60's. ALEC MILDREN an Australian Alfa dealer had a stradale 1300GTA 16V built by Autodelta.I suspect that the 1.5 was also developed prior to the F.I.A. changing the class capacity to 1600cc's hence the capacity of this engine. Only personnel involved with the development at Autodelta during this period would know the truth. One of the reasons why they used a steel shell may be because the power ouput was much higher than GTA's of that era being able to handle the increased stresses because some earlier all alloy floored GTA's were showing stress cracks
Later GTA's had steel floor pans.Here in Australia , it is a known fact that the 1300 & 1600 Giulia 105 chassis are lighter than the later 1750 2000 ones
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