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2000 grill on a 1750

I am in the process of restoring this 1971 GTV 1750 and want to clarify a couple things. This car was originally purchased in Canada, the VIN is AR1532146. I get conflicting information and understand that there was some changeover on some features of the car in this time period. I believe the trunk badges are wrong, I will be getting a new trunk anyway... The things that I am particularly curious about are:

1. The 2000 grill, were there ever 1750ís sold with this grill? Is it interchangeable with a 1750 grill or are modifications required?

2. Square tail lights, were there ever 1750ís sold with these tail lights? I believe the rear valance is different for the different tail lights, so I canít imagine someone would go through the trouble of hacking up the body for these.

Feel free to ask any questions, or point out any other abnormalities. Please donít ask for pictures of the interior as it is completely disassembled, but I might be able to answer questions about it if there are pertinent things in there.
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Thereís a GTV here in Vancouver thatís a 1750 with a 2000 grille and taillights. Not uncommon from what I have been told.

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It is registered as a 1750.
From what I understand it is a 1750 VIN.
It has a 1750 engine, dash, interior, and badges.
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If it is in fact a 1750, then I would look inside the nose - under, in and around the radiator/mounts, front cross brace and sway bar mounts for indications of repair and/or existing front end damage.
Why?

1750 front panel work, especially a series 2 1750, is identical to a 2000. I see this is not a s2 though after looking at the photos again, but cannot see evidence in photos of the nose being wrong, other than grill.

And yes some 1750s were made with the larger tail lights, so other than the wrong grill (swapped in minutes) this car could be all original.

I don't know LHD models as well as RHD, but I would have expected the front indicators to be mounted in the body if really a 1971 and not a 69 or 70 ...
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Why?

1750 front panel work, especially a series 2 1750, is identical to a 2000. I see this is not a s2 though after looking at the photos again, but cannot see evidence in photos of the nose being wrong, other than grill.

And yes some 1750s were made with the larger tail lights, so other than the wrong grill (swapped in minutes) this car could be all original.

I don't know LHD models as well as RHD, but I would have expected the front indicators to be mounted in the body if really a 1971 and not a 69 or 70 ...
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Hi Pete

US market cars had the indicators mounted on or under the bumper, all the way through production. RoW LHD cars were the same as ours in Oz and NZ.

You can tell this is a US market front bumper as well due to the lack of recesses on the top corners like ours have to clear those body mounted indicator/parking light fittings.

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9/22/2012 14:50:19 1532146 105.51 - 1750 GT Veloce (N. America) 1970-12-21 Metallic Light Grey AR727 Canada Canada,Ontario,Toronto tvquinn Currently red in colour. Awaiting restoration.

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The taillights are correct for the model, the Grill is wrong. Trunk badges look correct, side marker lights are wrong, but an improvement. Should this GTV have a glued in windshield? This gasketed windshield is an improvement as well. Dont think 1750s came with Turbinas? The drivers side wiper should be on top of the passenger side wiper and be stainless.

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With the car I got center covers for other wheels, which I assume were the originals but not included.
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Where are you located in Ontario?

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If it originally had the 1750 grille there would be a tab under the valance where it bolted to. It was spot welded on so it would have to have been hacked off in some fashion to fit the 2000 grille.

Interesting: Every GTV 2000 we've done has been retro'd back to a 1750 at the client's request... Tastes change...

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If it originally had the 1750 grille there would be a tab under the valance where it bolted to. It was spot welded on so it would have to have been hacked off in some fashion to fit the 2000 grille.

Interesting: Every GTV 2000 we've done has been retro'd back to a 1750 at the client's request... Tastes change...
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Where are you located in Ontario?
Kitchener, let me know if youíre ever out this way. I met you at the CTMP VARAC vintage Grand Prix last month.
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Was the rear window defroster available this year?
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yes, standard equipment on S2 at least on the Euro/CDN

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I recall seeing this car when it was still Silver, before being painted (still have a photo of it). I noticed at that time that the front grille was incorrect. I had one to sell, but the owner liked the 2000 grille over the 1750 set-up (personal preference).
This is 1750 Spica car. The gold clover badge is correct.

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Is there a definitive guide anywhere that shows the various grilles fitted to the various models?
I've looked at photos in the register but not all state if the fitted grilles are original or fitted later.
I'd like to see how the grilles/lights/badges etc changed over the model years.
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