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post #196 of 264 (permalink) Old 04-18-2018, 03:11 PM Thread Starter
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Curious did you ever reach out to those clowns and try and get some compensation, BTW..Good Luck!!!!
Thanks! I went directly with the lawyer. My estimation was given how the sales agreement was written, they would just tell me to pound sand anyhow so all I would be doing is waste time before getting a lawyer regardless.
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So I guess they told you stick it when you mentioned the broken spring and their inspection?

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Thanks! I went directly with the lawyer. My estimation was given how the sales agreement was written, they would just tell me to pound sand anyhow so all I would be doing is waste time before getting a lawyer regardless.
Well... if you're going in deep, make certain you sue them for actual, punitive, and importantly noneconomic damages (look it up it opens many remedies) kick *** and take names !!!
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It would be sweet to see someone somewhere finally get what they deserve! Good luck!!!!!!
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Did a picture of the egregious spring make it to the Internet yet? Or at least here on the BB??

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Did a picture of the egregious spring make it to the Internet yet? Or at least here on the BB??
Here you go..... from a bunch of photos earlier in the thread.....
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Yup. Wont lie to anyone. I just plain forgot that I saw the pic. Ugh, aging sucks 😳😭😭
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I'd like to know if it was broken because it failed or was it cut to make the car sit level.

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I'd like to know if it was broken because it failed or was it cut to make the car sit level.
looking at the interface of where the spring is broken, it is conical, not a shape I would expect if it was cut. My guess is that the rubber sleeve around the spring held moisture leading to the failure.
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It would be sweet to see someone somewhere finally get what they deserve! Good luck!!!!!!
I dont know what to expect. I would be happy to get out of this quickly with all or most of money back. I am slightly optimistic as the lawyer did not hesitate to take the case even though he will only get paid in case of a settlement.
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I dont know what to expect. I would be happy to get out of this quickly with all or most of money back. I am slightly optimistic as the lawyer did not hesitate to take the case even though he will only get paid in case of a settlement.
If you attorney took it on a contingency-only basis ..it is probably a slam dunk... remember what I mentioned in the thread above, non-economic opens a lot of possibilities ..

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The attorney sent a letter to BHCC early last week. After receipt, they have 30 days to reply and this is just the first step. This is going to be a slow process....
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post #208 of 264 (permalink) Old 05-12-2018, 04:42 PM
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BHCC sells tired beaten up cars that are falling apart. And their asking prices are much higher than the car is worth. They provide extensive photos on all their cars and the photos are highly illustrative of all the warts on a car. They also provide very optimistic sales description. What Mr. Evermore bought was a highly overpriced piece of junk. Not even enough good parts to be a parts car. But I don't see that BHCC has done anything worse than take advantage of a buyer's ignorance about the product. They are not priests. They don't run a non-profit charity for orphaned cars. Reading this entire thread one can only remember the age old saying, "let the buyer beware"...a saying Mr. Evermore ignored to his displeasure. His only honorable way out of the mess is to learn auto mechanics and dedicate the next ten years to rebuilding the car using sweat and second hand parts. He will then have a $25,000 GTV. No more and no less. But to try and screw someone the way he screwed himself is not honorable. Of course he can also sell the car for the $5000 it is actually worth and buy a tired Spider and get on with his life.
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update: this takes a long time...

If you are ever in a position where you have to pursue the legal path, it's important to understand that this likely a very lengthy process. Here is what has happened so far and likely timeline:

1. BHCC was served papers in early May
2. After the date of receipt, they have 30 days to respond (they briefly contacted the lawyer to tell him to piss up a pole)
3. This period is up now and they failed to properly respond so the next step is to file a suit.
4. Filing the suit usually takes a few weeks, say another 30 days.
5. Once filed, they have another 30 days to respond. So we do not expect an answer or any solution for another 2 months at the earliest.
6. Going to trial would rather suck: In LA county, the backlog is huge and a likely trial date right now would not be until November 2019!
7. Given the likely outcome and faced with a large retainer for a lawyer, they hopefully settle much earlier.

Anyhow, expect at least 4 months for something like this but can be 2 years!



In the meantime, according to the lawyer, it is reasonable to make repairs to the vehicle to make it driveable and those can be charged as part of the settlement. Not routine maintenance (oil changes, brake pads) or upgrades (new shocks!) but definitely replace the broken spring or anything else to make the car safe to drive. So since it will take up space in my garage for quite a while longer, I'll replace the spring in the next few weeks.
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post #210 of 264 (permalink) Old 06-20-2018, 11:12 AM
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I'm sure your lawyer is the salt of the earth, but I would hate to see his bill after four months, let alone two years. And when you get your case before a judge, he can look at it and decide it has no merit and throw it out. At which point you will be back to ground zero...but now with two strikes against you. The money you are spending going to court would be better spent being put into the car. In the end you will be able to drive it and enjoy it...just not at the cost you originally imagined.
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