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My U.S. 71 wiring harness runs along the sill of the drivers side, my guess would be that the wiring harness runs to the side of the ignition, gauges etc.

I also had a though regarding your in-dash radio, IMO, why ruin a beautiful dash with something that wasn't factory installed? Install a Bluetooth enabled stereo or multi channel amp in the trunk and stream from your iOS device.
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I think I recall the general layout and if I'm correct the main harness (from rear to front runs along the passenger side floor. Is there a photo or diagram that shows the general routing that anyone has to share?

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Tj, not the best photo but it shows the wiring harness on my ‘66 running along the roof line in a channel. Not sure if it’s the same for LHD as mine is RHD.
FWIW, we’re also restoring a later model ‘70 1750 GTV MkII of which the harness is quite different (and improved) and runs along the top of the sill.
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I also had a though regarding your in-dash radio, IMO, why ruin a beautiful dash with something that wasn't factory installed? Install a Bluetooth enabled stereo or multi channel amp in the trunk and stream from your iOS device.
Back in 1966 I'm pretty sure no manufacturer factory installed radios, it was done by the dealers. How things have improved in that area

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Tj, not the best photo but it shows the wiring harness on my Ď66 running along the roof line in a channel. Not sure if itís the same for LHD as mine is RHD.
FWIW, weíre also restoring a later model Ď70 1750 GTV MkII of which the harness is quite different (and improved) and runs along the floor.
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Thanks Jannes,

I believe thatís the wiring that goes back to the tail lights, fuel tank sender unit, and reverse light, correct? Can you confirm that it is routed up the a-pillar where it emerges at the b-pillar before it gets tucked in to the groove in the roof line?

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My U.S. 71 wiring harness runs along the sill of the drivers side, my guess would be that the wiring harness runs to the side of the ignition, gauges etc.

I also had a though regarding your in-dash radio, IMO, why ruin a beautiful dash with something that wasn't factory installed? Install a Bluetooth enabled stereo or multi channel amp in the trunk and stream from your iOS device.
Thank you,

I like the look of the period correct head unit, and even though the factory didnít install radios, they were certainly installed by dealers in those days.

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Itís called Cobalto Blue Medio.

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I believe that’s the wiring that goes back to the tail lights, fuel tank sender unit, and reverse light, correct? Can you confirm that it is routed up the a-pillar where it emerges at the b-pillar before it gets tucked in to the groove in the roof line?

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Yes, its the wiring that goes to the trunk for lights and the fuel tank sender unit.
And yes, it does get threaded up the a-pillar. Unfortunately I can’t find a photo now showing this.
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Yes, its the wiring that goes to the trunk for lights and the fuel tank sender unit.
And yes, it does get threaded up the a-pillar. Unfortunately I canít find a photo now showing this.
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Thanks again Jannes,

I think I remember how it gets routed up through the a-pillar.

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FWIW. The harness in my '65 had the rear harness running along the top of the driver's side sill. The only thing which threaded up into the A-pillar was the wiring for the courtesy lights.

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FWIW. The harness in my '65 had the rear harness running along the top of the driver's side sill. The only thing which threaded up into the A-pillar was the wiring for the courtesy lights.
Thanks Tom.

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I'm renewing my call to any and all 105 restorers who can weigh in on whether or not the portion of the wiring harness which serves the tail lights, fuel sender, and reverse light is routed in the channel above the door and rear window and down the c-pillar. There is a groove on both sides of my body with tabs that appear to be for holding the harness in place, and I've seen at least a couple cars with their apparently original harnesses in that area.

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I've heard some report that their harness ran along lower door sill on the floor of the driver's side of the car as well. It's possible that Alfa Romeo installed the harness in both locations for some reason.

If you've got an opinion or experience to share, please do!

-tj in the Cruz Mtns


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My experience agrees with trich and Ranz: LHS sill plate.

But I can see pros and cons of putting it in the roof structure:

+ Less likely to be damaged from stepping on sill plate

- In the unlikely event that the wiring did get damaged, you would need to remove your windshields and take out the headliner to access it.
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Sill plate for sure on my Ď73. It seems a lot more logical to me - dealing with the Headliner is probably the hardest thing to do right. on these cars.

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I'm installing the pedal box, brake master cylinder and linkage. Does anyone know what kind of fasteners are used to mount the brake MC to the pedal box? Is it a long bolt with a special head? I can't recall what was in there before I removed it and it seems that a standard hex bolt obstructs the linkage.

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