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Seat belts and Hand Brake light

Hello Everyone,

i wanted to install 3 point seat belts, as the ones that came with the car are old, hard to put on (especially for the passenger) and might be a bit unsafe. Any brand that anyone recommends more than another?

Also my hand brake light is always on on the dashboard, wether the hand brake is up or down, could you give me a heads up on what to look for? Sometimes it goes on and off intermittently.

Thank you all for the input..best Antonio!
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Antonio,

I hear you on the lap belts... I'm using the original ones as well.

Regarding the hand brake light; Under the vinyl (or leather) hand brake cover, the switch in question will be visible. It may have dislodged itself from the mounting tab or in need of a slight adjustment... it's fairly easy to do.
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Some on the BB have recommended "Wesco" seat belts. Use the Search function with that key word and some threads will pop up.

If you're brake warning light is on and all seems to be working ok, it could be a stuck brake pressure light switch. Pop open the hood and just to the rear of the SPICA fuel filter, on the passenger side of the engine bay, you'll find some hard tubing that is screwed into a small black manifold. At the top center of that manifold is a switch with an orange wire. Pull the wire from the switch to create an open circuit and see if the brake light goes out. If it does, the switch is stuck in the closed position.

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Antonio,

I hear you on the lap belts... I'm using the original ones as well.

Regarding the hand brake light; Under the vinyl (or leather) hand brake cover, the switch in question will be visible. It may have dislodged itself from the mounting tab or in need of a slight adjustment... it's fairly easy to do.
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Some on the BB have recommended "Wesco" seat belts. Use the Search function with that key word and some threads will pop up.

If you're brake warning light is on and all seems to be working ok, it could be a stuck brake pressure light switch. Pop open the hood and just to the rear of the SPICA fuel filter, on the passenger side of the engine bay, you'll find some hard tubing that is screwed into a small black manifold. At the top center of that manifold is a switch with an orange wire. Pull the wire from the switch to create an open circuit and see if the brake light goes out. If it does, the switch is stuck in the closed position.
I will check that thank you, i ordered the seat belts after some research.
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I will check that thank you, i ordered the seat belts after some research.
I'm in the market also. Could you let us know which seat belts you ordered and your opinion on these. Thanks, James

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I'm in the market also. Could you let us know which seat belts you ordered and your opinion on these. Thanks, James
Will do - Ill try to make a video
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Some on the BB have recommended "Wesco" seat belts. Use the Search function with that key word and some threads will pop up.

If you're brake warning light is on and all seems to be working ok, it could be a stuck brake pressure light switch. Pop open the hood and just to the rear of the SPICA fuel filter, on the passenger side of the engine bay, you'll find some hard tubing that is screwed into a small black manifold. At the top center of that manifold is a switch with an orange wire. Pull the wire from the switch to create an open circuit and see if the brake light goes out. If it does, the switch is stuck in the closed position.
I disconnected the orange wire and the brake light stayed on...

How do i remove the carpet to access the switch under the handbrake?

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Gently remove the vinyl or leather cover and the carpet it's attached to... that piece is generally tucked under the square cutout of the main carpet.

Slide the handbrake carpet piece over the handbrake lever and out of the way... the switch will be visible.

Access is tight, but you should be able to see what is causing the switch to not operate properly when the handbrake is applied and released... switch mounting position, chafed, pinched wire or some other issue.
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Assume the brake fluid level and level switches in both chambers have been checked (before digging around the carpet)....
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Gently remove the vinyl or leather cover and the carpet it's attached to... that piece is generally tucked under the square cutout of the main carpet.

Slide the handbrake carpet piece over the handbrake lever and out of the way... the switch will be visible.

Access is tight, but you should be able to see what is causing the switch to not operate properly when the handbrake is applied and released... switch mounting position, chafed, pinched wire or some other issue.
thank you very much - I will do that

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Assume the brake fluid level and level switches in both chambers have been checked (before digging around the carpet)....
I will add some brake fluid and check the switches. Thank you
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Hi Antonio,

I used the Wesco S404-2-1000, 3 point retractable roadster seatbelts in my 1750 GTV.

These have the retractor reel up high (above the ashtray) on the side of the car behind your shoulder.

The retractor works at any angle, unlike the one that is floor mounted that needs to be at or close to 90 degrees. Installation is a breeze.

I also found that these belts are much more comfortable across the shoulder. They also come with the old style chrome flap buckle.

Cheers,
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Hi Antonio,

I used the Wesco S404-2-1000, 3 point retractable roadster seatbelts in my 1750 GTV.

These have the retractor reel up high (above the ashtray) on the side of the car behind your shoulder.

The retractor works at any angle, unlike the one that is floor mounted that needs to be at or close to 90 degrees. Installation is a breeze.

I also found that these belts are much more comfortable across the shoulder. They also come with the old style chrome flap buckle.

Cheers,
Wazza.
Great i got home and the package was there! I got the same ones! I will do a install/review this weekend with images.
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Wesco S404-2-1000 installation

AS promised here are some picture of the very straight forward install. As GTVmk1 has mentioned these seat belts offered great comfort and a huge improvement over stock and "unsafe" original, which will find a dry place in my garage regardless.

Install is unbolt, bolt, adjust...
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https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bokrdah71...A8gJDB8-a?dl=0

all the pictures can be found here..
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I was not able to figure out the brake light still on...brake fluid is there...
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