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post #976 of 1594 (permalink) Old 09-04-2015, 04:12 PM
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Hey Rossano,

The detailed photos are brilliant and looks like it's really getting there.....

How about some quick photos of the whole car so we can see the progress so far....

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'Chrome plated Screw cup washers' is the name on the packet of those cup washers I picked up from my local hardware store....they are available in the same gauge sizes as screws - 6G in this instance. I can't imagine the same specialist nuts and bolts supplier where you found the screws wouldn't carry them too. But then, some say my imagination is limited...
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I have not done the grommets yet, but you might try a fabric store...they have grommet type of stuff...or a boating supply store
Yes I checked out both a fabric store and craft store but the quality was rather flimsy and seemed very weak. I also tried Tandy Leather supplies but they did not have 3/16" sized grommets....which was a disappointment.....the smallest they had was for 1/4" hole size.


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Hey Rossano,
The detailed photos are brilliant and looks like it's really getting there.....
How about some quick photos of the whole car so we can see the progress so far....
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The car is buried under at the moment and I've also taped the whole body in protective packing foam/bubble wrap...a whole car photo wouldn't shown much at this point.

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'Chrome plated Screw cup washers' is the name on the packet of those cup washers I picked up from my local hardware store....they are available in the same gauge sizes as screws - 6G in this instance. I can't imagine the same specialist nuts and bolts supplier where you found the screws wouldn't carry them too. But then, some say my imagination is limited...
No the screw suppliers did not have those. I've seen cup washers and countersunk washers available but they don't seem quite right....in that the washers are not flush enough.

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I have not done the grommets yet, but you might try a fabric store...they have grommet type of stuff...or a boating supply store
Tried the fabric store....they're flimsy and too thin looking....I'll look at the boat store though.


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So while the door card hardware search is ongoing, I'm trying to finish the stainless trim install at the forward end in and around the map pocket area. I recall black vinyl applied underneath but I'm not 100% certain how much of the area needed to be covered with in black vinyl....anyone have any photos of what was there originally?

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FYI - my car had a strip of matt black paint just on the inside of the bottom of the front windscreen. I believe this is to visually hide the gap between the dash board and windscreen.
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FYI - my car had a strip of matt black paint just on the inside of the bottom of the front windscreen. I believe this is to visually hide the gap between the dash board and windscreen.
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Yes now that you mention it, I should paint that out...as I already did for the rear window area.


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Map Pockets

There's a thread on map pockets that has this picture which shows the vinyl covered the entire side of the footwell behind the screw on pocket.
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Tubular rivets

Rossano, take a look at the info in this thread. It's been ages since I looked at my Sprint GT's door cards but I can only remember seeing cup washers and philips head sheet metal screws used here. As mentioned in my email to you a while ago, finding washers which have an angle and diameter to precisely match the underside of the screw head is not easy. I would be interested to know what you find.

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to all parts I have advertised on the BB so far. Plenty more! Just ask.
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There's a thread on map pockets that has this picture which shows the vinyl covered the entire side of the footwell behind the screw on pocket.
Perfect! Thank you....that tells the story right there. I'm good to go now on finishing off the interior stainless trim.


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Rossano, take a look at the info in this thread.......I would be interested to know what you find.
Thanks Alex, that thread has a link to a post by Papajam...who shows us what he was able to find on the grommets.

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Luckily for him he was able to go there with his door cards and have them fitted This company's site states that they only sell to companies......

So the search continues....but i'll look into tubular brass rivets next....hopefully nickel plated, but I won't shy from using un plated brass ones if that's all find.


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Door card cup washers

Hello Rossano,
Your restoration raises the bar to a whole new level, what an attention to details and they are so ****** many.
I picture searched using google "#6 cup washers" and came out whole bunch of them. Take a look at this links for SS cup washers, are these what you looking for? Am I missing anything?
Finishing Cup Washers 18-8 Stainless Steel
BTW, Thanks for the vinyl insert on B pillar pic was about to paint mine with black paint.

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Hello Rossano,
Your restoration raises the bar to a whole new level, what an attention to details and they are so ****** many
Oooo yeah and i can't wait to get to the end of them! As for the washers.....those aren't quite right in that they are deeper than the original ones. Willwisers's post below has a link to Newco .....they seem to have the right ones, and interestingly Ferraris seem to use the same style as well. If take look at those you'll see the subtle difference.


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Now that i just finished gluing in the vinyl to the area behind the map pocket.....I was looking at compiling a list of upholstery parts that i need to purchase from CA....and when I look at the carpet set photo on their site I see something disturbing....can you see it? Perhaps the enlarged area shows what I mean...

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Does this piece go where i think it goes?

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Does this piece go where i think it goes?
Sure... of course it goes behind the map pocket! But you're looking at a non OEM multi-piece carpet set, aren't you? The original OEM carpet is a single piece that did not cover the outboard sides of either footwell.. hence the need for the vinyl which is covered by the map pockets. So I'm not sure you're comparing apples to apples here.

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