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post #31 of 69 (permalink) Old 12-16-2008, 10:29 AM
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Written-in on the engine sump page of my CarDisc for Series 1 Spider's/GTV's (AR808, Ver. 5.0) is a notation that says: "Sump Guard 10526.01.87.1.02". The 10526 is probably transposed from 10562?

Could have meant, if accurate, that Alfa either made or sold as a part, a sump guard. I know I picked mine up at a dealers' when I bought my car (in the deal).
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I bought one but never put it on. If I did put it on, the bottom of the guard would be about 2" from the road and probably would always bottom out.
The bottom of the sump is replaceable for a reason. Cost about $35 back in the day.

Sump guards that my friends ran (mostly on Spider) were more of a headache for hitting stuff a non-guarded sump would clear. Can't remember anyone ever saying the guard saved a sump.
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maxnix, etc, that's just not working for me. A gashed pan and Alfie's guts hanging out on some back road. I can't see the resistance but . . . . I guess there are just two passionate schools here on sump guards, who will never reconcile. If some folks would put on whitewalls and hood scoops, then anything goes.

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there's a thought.. white wall tryes on my 84 spider...too cool..

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Yes. There is a thread with pics. People do. Also needed: some of those cool Buick faux side intakes, and some Pontiac side trim pieces. I'm waiting for the hydraulic suspension that does dog tricks and jumps and barks . . . . but NO sump guard . . . .

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I am beginning to sense some difference of opinion regarding the necessity of a sump guard. Some say you are asking for trouble if you do not install one. Others are of the opinion, "If it isn't broke don't fix it."
Anyone out there that previously took one position and now wish they had not.
I still have not been able to find one. Perhaps good/bad karma?

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Everyone has their own opinion. I regularly drag mine on speedbumps, driveway transitions, etc. I am sure I would be scraping the oilpan without it. Motors dont last too long after you break the pan and the oil leaks out. Its cheap insurance, do the math.

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... and I'm of the opinion that the guards do nothing but add weight at the front (which also lowers the front), decreases ground clearance and just plain gets in the way for some service operations. Not to mention the possibility that the guard itself could break the pan if it hits anything.
I take the things off and usually toss 'em or give 'em away but I currently don't have any.

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I once helped a buddy build a really hot motor for his Fiat spider. It ran great for about 2 weeks until he hit some railroad tracks going about 50 mph. It split open his oilpan, but he didnt notice until the engine seized up. Now he has a really expensive paperweight.

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The root cause being, of course, going over railroad tracks @ 50MPH.

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Thumbs down 1 Negative comment about Sump Guards

All sump guards do is decrease your ground clearance. And if you hit something hard enough to bend the guard, all it's going to do is shove your motor upward damaging the motor mounts, possibly cause radiator damage when the fan hits it and/or damage to the hood when the valve cover hits it. I've seen such results. I never ran a guard on the race car, and the worst damage I encountered was a couple of the fins broke off, but no cracks in the pan, and these happened when the tow truck pulled me back onto the track surface after an infield jaunt, I was pulled straight onto the track as opposed to an angle. I am therefore not putting a guard on my lowered street/track Super, it's already low enough.

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For what's it's worth the sump guard on my 74 probably saved my pan in an off road excursion. We're talking about big sharp 10-12 inch rocks and many, many years ago. Will not be putting one on the 73 I've got now. I'm a hellva lot older and hopefully a little wiser now.
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Wow -who knew that sump guards would cause such heated debate? It also depends on what your roads are like. Here in North Cackalacky some areas are good and some not so good. One of the main boulevards into town here has pavement repairs that resemble speed bumps, and that is on the rich side of town. If your roads are better then go for it, but for me its cheap insurance.

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Wow -who knew that sump guards would cause such heated debate?
Yep. Ranks right up there with Spica vs. Webers.

I fully identify with what you're saying. For me though, it's not so much the condition of a road but knowing the condition of said road and adjusting my driving accordingly (to include taking a different route or a different vehicle).

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