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I was wondering if there was a principal manufacturer of ignition switches for 1964 Giulia Spiders. I had thought that Marelli would have been the source of such switches, but all I can find are Taylor replacement keys or blanks that look like Marelli keys.

None of the little end-view of my key that fits my switch (marked E-16) looks anything like the Marelli-looking blanks sold by the usual suspects.

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Marelli E key

I have yet to obtain a picture of the proper oval head Marelli E, but here is a shield head one (motor cycle) which are interchangeable in actual use.
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Could be Bosch, judging by the key code.

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Fran,

Would there be some way to determine that from looking at the cylinder, though there is nothing written, printed, or embossed on it, as I remember. Much too old, I guess; the switch, not me

What would an original Bosch key have looked like; any photos?

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can take a pic when i get home, Fran

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This is a Bosch key, worth a shot. Fran
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Hi

I believe that switch is a Bosch, so needs a "B" key, but not absolutely sure as away from parts....

Not so long ago I obtained a NOS Bosch switch from EB Spares, UK. An alternative, easily obtained is a FIAT 600 Multipla switch, non original and not even a look-alike, but it works!

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I have yet to obtain a picture of the proper oval head Marelli E, but here is a shield head one (motor cycle) which are interchangeable in actual use.
Carl, is this what you are referring to ? From a current eBay listing:273855753994
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Hi VeloceSa/others

Yep, image above is FIAT part, my Alfa man in Japan declared still available at FIAT part shops...of course, not tested!

Bosch is remaking lots of old parts maybe their ignition switch is amongst them....

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In reply to your original post, yes - the principal manufacturer of ignition switches for your 1964 Giulia chassis was BOSCH.
Apart from a few modifications .. and very few exceptions, all the electrical components that were originally fitted to your car were supplied by BOSCH.

Your original key would have looked like that pictured by Fran in #7 post.

As it will be an Abnormale, why are you so concerned about the original details of your car ?

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George,

In the GSPM, page 326 & 327, TAV 129, it shows a bigger-body ignition switch (# 105.00.65.130.00) and lists it as a Bosch switch and lists 50 S code designations. However, the front of my switch shows an E 16 on the face of the switch.

I probably read (or misread) something that led me to believe that because the same page in the GSPM lists Merilli key code designations from A through H, that my E 16 face ignition switch indicated that it originally used a Marelli E code key.

Carl750's photo of the two Marelli shield-headed E blanks match my Taylor-duplicate, exactly. They're vintage Moto-Guzzi/Ducati items.

Jim Whitacker loaned me a B-code Marelli ig key in case I could locate a matching switch.

Truth be told, I love the look of a Marelli oval-shaped key, but had no idea that the ig switch might be a Bosch. More benefits of never seeing one of these before I bought mine

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I'm easily confused.. the switch in the first post is a MARELLI.. just like the two I have with new Marelli keys and a spare SILCA key..Inquire if you wish to buy one .. Fazzazz people pay $300 for keys alone.. AR people are more frugal. If you don't want to spend 3 C's , file this as "so-what" info if Bosch is the flavor of the month..

FWIW.. the inside cover of the Alfa Romeo 1600 Spider and Sprint Owner's manual, 1963 shows a MARELLI KEY and a profile for a TORINO key to the other locks.. Just so the fog doesn't get to thick.
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Somebody kindly sent me photos of both side of the key.
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huh, both of my Spider Veloces, 390188 and 390377 had/have Bosch ignition switches. Just trying to add data points.
In the owners manual on page 1, is definitely a Marelli key but on page 9 could be a Bosch key. As I remember ignition switch, distributor, generator, starter and horn are Bosch, wiper motor and toggle switches Lucas.
Part manual Pg 129, gives two ignition switch numbers 105.00.65.130.00 which looks Marelli and 105.0065.130.01 which looks Bosch. Not sure if this is helpful.

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