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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 02-02-2019, 04:36 PM Thread Starter
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Tyre rubbing

Hi All,
I hope you can help me.
I’ve just put some new Alfaholics wheels(5”) and 165/15 tyres on my 101 spider.
In large dips on the road it is rubbing on the front of the guards, just near the lip. I think only driver side with only myself in the car. Only driven once 70km since returning it to the road a week ago. My dad was following me and reported that it was definitely “listing” on the drivers side.

I’m only 70kgs!

The car has 105 discs/calipers on the front.

I suspect the cars springs have “settled” after 50 odd years or have I just screwed up my tyre choice? (new Koni’s just fitted)

I could not get the spare in the cradle either!

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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 02-03-2019, 05:59 AM
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I put 165-15 tires on stock wheels on my 101.18 Spider in the early 1970's and had occasional rubbing on the front end. The car was about 9 years old, which I thought made it an old car, and I weighed 175 lbs (80 kg) back then. The 165's are taller and wider than the spec 155's. You should check that the back spacing on the new wheels is the same as the original wheels. That being said, yes the springs may have settled. An unscientific observation indicates that Spiders frequently have only the driver aboard and the driver's side may have settled more than the passenger side. At one point I put stiffer lowering springs on the car and did not like the look or the ride, but I am a grumpy old man and you may have different opinions.
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Way back when I had three 101 Spiders in a row, I found that a 165 tire would rub at the front lower edge of the front wheel wells, so I just hammered the lip to fold it inward. These were "just" cars then, and I'm not sure I would do the same thing today...

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Hi All,
I hope you can help me.
I’ve just put some new Alfaholics wheels(5”) and 165/15 tyres on my 101 spider.
In large dips on the road it is rubbing on the front of the guards, just near the lip. I think only driver side with only myself in the car. Only driven once 70km since returning it to the road a week ago. My dad was following me and reported that it was definitely “listing” on the drivers side.

I’m only 70kgs!

The car has 105 discs/calipers on the front.

I suspect the cars springs have “settled” after 50 odd years or have I just screwed up my tyre choice? (new Koni’s just fitted)

I could not get the spare in the cradle either!

Regards Daniel


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G'day Daniel
Yes, you have screwed up your tyre choice.
Vredestein and Oh so few others are producing a 155/R15 that substitutes for the original Pirelli's, Michelin's and Continental's.

It's not just the extra 10mm of tread width, it's that plus the different tyre aspect ratio.
The same differences account for the inability to fit your spare into the cockpit "cage".

Oh VW, why did you choose 165/R15 and not 155/R15 ?

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I had the original 155-15 cinturato S spare on my '67 GTV when bought in 1974....it was much smaller in height and width than the 155 sold then. The 155 Vredesteins today are closer in size to an old 165-15 if not larger!

Just put 155 Vreds on my 101 Spider and 165-14 Vreds on my GTV and couldn 't be happier!

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Has anyone tried the Michelin 155/HR 15 XAS FF tires? Or their 155/R15 X? That purchase is coming up in the spring for me.
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Has anyone tried the Michelin 155/HR 15 XAS FF tires? Or their 155/R15 X? That purchase is coming up in the spring for me.
My tyre supplier is taking the 165’s back and I am getting 155 XAS tyres. I’ll let you know how that goes!
They do need tubes though, which I really did not want.
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If you have standard rims on your 101 Alfa, they were designed to use tube type tires !!
I've had slow leaks at times with tubeless....

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