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I always appreciate readers who study the issue, sometimes with help from Uncle, above and others, before making a mess of the job. Kinda no-fault that way!


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I have the exact same problem with the standard steel oil pan in my standard 1959 750D. The undamaged cross member likewise interferes with the oil drain plug. The mechanics must have had a way around this in the day. I make do with removing that cross member at each oil change. I have not found the right offset wrench to remove the drain plug without removing the cross member. I'd love to know where to find one.

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Simplest thing to do is deep six the existing plug with the external hex and interference and install an Allen type, 14 mm.. That's what I would do if it was such a hassle. The tool kit one won't work because it's too short a throw .. Just get a real one. A double nutted 9/16 common bolt works in a pinch. All kinds of ways to skin this cat. Or you can throw throw car away and tell me where you left it. Jsusttttttt kidding . I've been accused of being demented but dementia isn't here yet. How do i know.. My last stiff drink was yesterday about this time .. I think it is time to start one.
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Same threads uncle? The 14mm has this big flat area with a large copper washer. Is it the same size as that for the older steel sumps?
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I can't believe they are different. I'll check my NOS plugs with magnets.. It would blow me away they are special. I'll post later. I am on No. 3
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All 22 x1.5 . The four on right have magnets
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I'd reiterate the copper gasket on drain plug. If you don't have replacement , you can anneal it by putting it on an open flame. I use 20-50 motorcycle oil which tends to have zinc in it.

Castrol and even Rotella eliminated it years ago. The local race shop sells a Brad Penn semi-synthetic oil. I use it in some older motorcycles when I have gone through the engine.

Changing out the canister is a real trip. My 1st time for some reason I was expecting 4qts. of oil. Imagine my surprise......

I change my plugs over to the Centerline ones with a head for 27MM socket and magnet.

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Thanks goats for the confirmation.. this must be a new record.. 40 posts to drain the oil
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I have the exact same problem with the standard steel oil pan in my standard 1959 750D. The undamaged cross member likewise interferes with the oil drain plug. The mechanics must have had a way around this in the day. I make do with removing that cross member at each oil change. I have not found the right offset wrench to remove the drain plug without removing the cross member. I'd love to know where to find one.
Interesting to hear. Do you have issues with getting the cross member back on when you're done?

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Simplest thing to do is deep six the existing plug with the external hex and interference and install an Allen type, 14 mm.. That's what I would do if it was such a hassle. The tool kit one won't work because it's too short a throw .. Just get a real one. A double nutted 9/16 common bolt works in a pinch. All kinds of ways to skin this cat. Or you can throw throw car away and tell me where you left it. Jsusttttttt kidding . I've been accused of being demented but dementia isn't here yet. How do i know.. My last stiff drink was yesterday about this time .. I think it is time to start one.
Agreed! I would love to find a Allen key type drain plug and just change over. That would truly solve this problem, but I haven't found anyone selling them. Any hints? (I've tried Centerline, Classic Alfa, Mr. Fiat, eBay)

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would advise you remove this plug and check diameter and thread -- then order a couple from belmetric or wherever. The drain plugs I show are all various types from Alfas-- including differential and trans and motor

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I had problems seating the oil canister and then found out when I spun the can before tightening the bolt the oil did not leak. I always replaced the oil can gasket and drain pan gasket. I know that you can soften a used copper gasket but, I always have many extra gaskets. I also purchased forty oil filter gaskets. I do not raise the car to change the oil but, I wish I could have a two post car lift in my garage. I replaced the original oil pan plug with a new hex headed magnetic oil plug. I do not drive my 101 Sprint Veloce very much less than 25 miles per year and will change the oil soon.
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Uncle, NOTHING Alfa is ever as simple as it seems. But you know that!


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