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post #196 of 300 (permalink) Old 12-23-2017, 02:19 PM
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I'm trying to educate myself on what tools and tool roll/bag I should have for my early/mid year 64 Spider Veloce (390173). Attached is a pic of what was found with the car- all rusty and in a homemade bag.

Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Specifically-

1. Do the tools shown indicate they are a partial set from a particular kit. Or, do they look like they are a random collection?

2. Is it more likely this car would have had the 750/101 tool roll or the later (105) tool bag?

3. Should the car have additional veloce tools or had Alfa omitted them by this time?

4. If the veloce tools should be included were they just added to the normale tool roll?

5. When did Alfa switch from the lug wrench with 2 90deg bends to the style shown?

6. I haven't seen any references to a 7 x 9 spanner. Any clue to it's origin? Ditto w/ the 19 x 22 spanner.

As side notes, the pliers looked like they were originally chrome plated, the screwdriver doesn't look like it belongs in any kit.

I'm on a hunt for the missing tools. If anyone has spares they'd like to sell feel free to let me know.

Thanks in advance for any help!!!
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For pictures of completely original Normale tool kit from 1958 Spider see group of detailed pictures in 06920 restoration entries
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/giul....html#poststop

and yes in 58 the screw drives were 2 different colors
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The Giulietta Toolkit explained

You can find all you need to know about the Giulietta toolkit and the difference between the 750 and 101 series cars in the links below:

The Giulietta 750 Veloce tools explained. | Auto Italia Sportiva

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I'm trying to educate myself on what tools and tool roll/bag I should have for my early/mid year 64 Spider Veloce (390173). Attached is a pic of what was found with the car- all rusty and in a homemade bag.

Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Specifically-

1. Do the tools shown indicate they are a partial set from a particular kit. Or, do they look like they are a random collection?

2. Is it more likely this car would have had the 750/101 tool roll or the later (105) tool bag?

3. Should the car have additional veloce tools or had Alfa omitted them by this time?

4. If the veloce tools should be included were they just added to the normale tool roll?

5. When did Alfa switch from the lug wrench with 2 90deg bends to the style shown?

6. I haven't seen any references to a 7 x 9 spanner. Any clue to it's origin? Ditto w/ the 19 x 22 spanner.

As side notes, the pliers looked like they were originally chrome plated, the screwdriver doesn't look like it belongs in any kit.

I'm on a hunt for the missing tools. If anyone has spares they'd like to sell feel free to let me know.

Thanks in advance for any help!!!
Chrome wrenches and pliers came with the 2000/2600 kits. Wrenches for a 64 Giulia should be cad plated and should be 8x10, 11x15, 14x17 and 18x21. The 7x9 and 19x22 only came in the 2000/2600 boxes. The pliers should be 160mm, not 190mm. The good news is Ferrari's and Lancia's used the 190mm pliers along with the 2000/2600's so it's easy to find a buyer. There should be a 19x21 spark plug wrench along with wooden screwdrivers, one short philips and one standard Italian engineers screwdriver with a red handle with light yellow paint in the creases. The 2000/2600's shared the drain plug wrench (14x17) with the Giuliettas and Giulias. Not sure when they stopped adding the three distinct Veloce tools. There's a pic of a totally original kit from a 65 Spider Veloce on the alfabb somewhere. I will look for it later.
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It's Gordon's from his 65 Veloce. Here it is. http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/car-...ir-pliers.html

It's the later bag (not sure when they switched), no wrenches, drain plug wrench or Veloce tools.
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Thanks for the replies so far. Interesting about the 2000/2600 pieces.

I studied the pic Gordon posted of his kit. Assuming my tools weren't just randomly assembled, the spanners makes me think the car probably had the 750/101 tool roll.

Progress being made!!! I'm always amazed with the knowledge base on the BB
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18x21 wrench

Right now there´s a good opportunity to get an original 18x21 Alfa Romeo 99003 wrench off of the italien Ebay for someone who´s collecting together his/her Giulietta/Giulia tool roll, 29 euro "buy now"

https://www.ebay.it/itm/alfa-romeo-c...oAAOSw2tFaee5p

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A member has PM:d me yesterday concerning buying the wrench, so it is not available anymore.

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Most likely has been posted before, but, what does a '62 Spider Normale tool roll looks like?
Possibly a Jack photo would be great!

Sources?

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Most likely has been posted before, but, what does a '62 Spider Normale tool roll looks like?
Possibly a Jack photo would be great!

Sources?

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Alberto,

This thread if any is ABOUT what among others, ´62 Spider Normale, tool roll and jack look like, check it out !!!

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Original Battaini jack for ´62 Giulia Spider/Sprint (or ´62 Giulietta Spider/Sprint). Has to be exactly this model, everything else is incorrect for your car.
Source? Ebay, ALFABB, 750-101 Yahoo discussion group or where ever there are Alfas/Alfa parts for sale.....
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Important details for you to check:

1) Shape and length of the rod

2) Appearance and shape of the bottom (both upper and lower side)

3) Shape of the crank and details/shape/size of the plastic knob

4) Shape, size and position of the rod holder on the jack´s body (green arrow)

5) Condition of the two gears in the top and under the plastic lid (if broken gears, it is almost impossible to get new ones)

There might be some more details I don´t recall right now as it has been a while since I ocuppied myself with sourcing correct jack and subsequently it´s restoration, but be aware the mentioned details are imperative in recognising the correct jack. There´s actually an array of Battaini jacks out there that are often very similar to the 101 jack, but not correct, so think and check twice as none of them is cheap and it can in the end easily be thrown out money.

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Dear Dennis, fantastic study on jacks! Where would the jack be located in the car?
Held by some apparatus, or just floating around in the trunk?

Thank you.

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Alberto,

The jack on a Spider is placed together with the tool roll behind the passenger seat, see the attached pic. ´62 Giulietta Spider carries naturally coloured leather straps and ´62 Giulia Spider (1600 from July on) black leather straps.
Ignore the jack you see in the pic as its an old pic with a 105 jack I had then and knew better.

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Thank you Dennis!

Is the 105 jack exactly the same as the 101 except for the round disc at base?

Regards, Alberto
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Nope: the rod and holder are different.
More about jacks restoration https://spiderveloce.wordpress.com/2...rick-battaini/

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