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Giulia updates?

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I agree that bringing a manual is not a value proposition for Alfa at this point, so I don't blame them, but I think dismissing manuals because the take rate is "literally nothing" shows that they have misunderstood their fan base- at least for cars like the QV. Manuals have much more of a reputation as a "budget" option in Europe and as such few premium car buyers want them. In the U.S., manuals are now mostly associated with sports cars- as sports cars (or hot hatches) are the only cars that still offer them here (with some limited exceptions). As such, the type of person who buys a QV is much more likely to want a manual here. That's part of the reason why BMW killed the manual in the G20 3 series but has stated they will keep a special version of the M3 available in manual.
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Well of course the take rate is zero if you don't even offer one.
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Figure heads like Tim Kuniskis worrying about infotainment joystick and cup holder should be working for Japanese car makers not Alfa.
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Unfortunately, American buyers look at joysticks, infotainment, cup holders etc. It seems to me that some of you fail to understand FIATs motives here. They want to sell cars!

I want a manual tranny, and IMHO believe it was maybe shortsighted to not offer one if for only one reason. Most car aficionados prefer a manual, the Alfisti would be driving more newer cars, talking about them etc.

I recall years ago when searching for a new car, I used the internet for the 1st time. I wanted an Audi A4, and the comments from American reviews? Small cup holders kept coming up!

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Is a manual offered in Europe?

So make it a very expensive N American option - the hardcores like us will buy it, the extra cost might cover the logistics, they gain a better reputation in the magazines.

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Im not sure , but I think no manual version of Giulia is offered anymore. There used to be Q and some diesel models with manual box.

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So make it a very expensive N American option - the hardcores like us will buy it, the extra cost might cover the logistics, they gain a better reputation in the magazines.
Manual version is available for low power diesels only.
There is no chance to get manual with a gas engine. The share of orders was very low. If we are talking about QV, the demand for manual gearbox drop to 12 cars per month. It was the main reason to stop the production

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Unfortunately, American buyers look at joysticks, infotainment, cup holders etc. It seems to me that some of you fail to understand FIATs motives here. They want to sell cars!

I want a manual tranny, and IMHO believe it was maybe shortsighted to not offer one if for only one reason. Most car aficionados prefer a manual, the Alfisti would be driving more newer cars, talking about them etc.

I recall years ago when searching for a new car, I used the internet for the 1st time. I wanted an Audi A4, and the comments from American reviews? Small cup holders kept coming up!
I think you are absolutely right about typical American car buyers. However, QV buyers are very far from the typical American car buyer.

My point above was that American performance enthusiasts were likely to have a much higher take rate than what happened in Europe. The American take rate for the M3, as well as Porsche's decision to bring back the manual GT3 are good examples.

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...QV, the demand for manual gearbox drop to 12 cars per month. It was the main reason to stop the production.
Ah ha, so there were some! Get all the part numbers, track down a parts order, and swaparoo!

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How many of the "I'd never buy it because it doesn't have a manual" crowd here actually are/were in the market for a car, and bought something different because of it?

What did you buy, and when?
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Haha!! The newest car I ever owned had 50,000 mi! And that was in college!

The "sportiest" thing I've bought recently was an A4 Avant turbo /manual / quattro / sport seats... Ooo, luxury.....with 70,000mi. That's why I get a kick out of all the hand wringing over $50,000+ cars. If you want a new sports car, buy a Cayman S with a manual. These are big heavy sedans.
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How many of the "I'd never buy it because it doesn't have a manual" crowd here actually are/were in the market for a car, and bought something different because of it?

What did you buy, and when?
I was in the market in 2016 right as they were about to start shipping cars. The Giulia was everything I wanted except the wrong transmission. I bought a WRX STI instead (only available in manual).
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How many of the "I'd never buy it because it doesn't have a manual" crowd here actually are/were in the market for a car, and bought something different because of it?

What did you buy, and when?
Unfortunately I'm not as loyal as you to just buy whatever Alfa offer to market........ I'm just bloody annoyed that I've been put in this predicament, after 4 brand new Alfas and having waited 6 years for the Giulia too now not knowing what to buy!!
FCA lose as I would have been a devote sales person for the new Giulia as I've always been in the past.


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I am excited to see the new changes of the upcoming Giulia.
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