"Very cold ice, minus 30C cold, actually delivers pretty good grip especially with studless rubber. Wet ice and smooth polished ice are virtually impossible to drive on safely regardless of tires or studs. Even chains can be defeated by wet smooth ice"
My experience as well, not here, as it doesn't get that cold, lol, but when I drove in Alaska for sure. Very cold ice and snow (as long as it is not 2 feet deep) are not that difficult to drive on, with reasonable traction from street tires. And, it doesn't take -30C to get that benefit.
Our snow around Puget Sound on the other hand is generally just slow water in only a semisolid form (like a sponge), temperatures around or above freezing, and water just running everywhere.
In our mountain conditions, and even in some of the slush in town (as long as it wasn't very deep) my original 62 Morris Mini could go anywhere even with regular stock skinny street tires. Not enough hp, 37, to break a tire loose, lol. Could climb up hills I couldn't go down safely. The modified 67 Cooper S wasn't nearly as good, had too much hp, easily breaking the tires loose. Hp can your enemy on snow and ice for traction.
Anyway, as for the Giulia, time will tell as people gain more experience in various conditions.
1989 Milano, Shankle Sport
1991 164S, stock
1994 164LS (~Q)
1972 Morgan 27
previously owned since 1964:
62 Morris MiniMinor 850, 67 Austin 1275 Cooper S (Downton 3/4 race), 64 Giulia Sprint GT (1st red one made), 72 Fiat 128 Sedan, 75 Alfetta Sedan, 78 Alfetta Sedan, 78 GTV, 81 GTV6, 86 GTV6
Last edited by Del; 04-01-2018 at 12:04 PM.