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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-21-2017, 11:45 AM Thread Starter
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Problem with the sunroof

I had an experience with a malfunctioning sunroof that I wanted to know if others have any imilar experience. One day it worked, the next it didn't. Couldn't get the screen to open, it stayed in the closed position. I took it to the dealer and they frankly were stumped. About several days of trying they ended up reaching out to FCA in Detroit. This past Monday a tech flew out from Detroit and they finally figured out how to get the sunroof working. Bottom line, don't hold down the control button for more than a few seconds. Sounds simple (and it is) but no one said anything when I bought the car. It cost the dealer a good deal of labor hours under warranty and 2 weeks of a rental car to figure that out
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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-22-2017, 09:57 AM
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Are they going to address the actual issue? Or just send out a memo saying, "Do not to do that again!"

This is what's going to kill AR before they have a chance. They need to fix these little things, not just ignore them and expect the world to change to suit Alfa Romeo's way of thinking.

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so the problem was that you pressed button too long? or was there real fault?

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I did not get the impression that FCA was going to do anything that would help owners avoid what I went through. I'm planning to go to the national AROC convention and hopefully will get a chance to meet with FCA officials to let them know of my frustrations about this issue.
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The mechanic did not suggest I did anything incorrectly other than holding down the buttom for too long a period. I certainly hope this does become a recurrent problem or that others have a similar issue.
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so they need to update owners manual? can some other Giulia owner test that if its really that?

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post #7 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-22-2017, 10:25 AM Thread Starter
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I think the manual certainly needs updating. I received a call from Alfa headquarters and I'll be speaking with them later today.
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A problem with software, or burning out a switch or relay? Would certainly confirm my feelings if it is a software problem. These cars, as with almost others, are just way complicated electronically, with likely bugs, at least it seems to be the case with Fiat.

Fiat keeps coming in at the bottom of reliability lists, but they never say what the primary faults are. I bet they are mostly software bugs.

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post #9 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-22-2017, 07:29 PM Thread Starter
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Yes, a software fix is needed. I received a call from a "case manager" from Alfa who was following up on my service visit. We had a good conversation about the need for a fix and for dealers to be notified. Found the Alfa rep to have listened carefully to my suggestions for the engineers. Hope there is follow through.
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Well what I am really unhappy with is that my sunroof is not running on ignition off. So the windows are working some time after ignition off, or continue moving when you turn off the ignition while they are moving. The sunroof is just dead. This also explains ehy you can't open or close it with the remote, unlike possible at Aufi or BMW.
It's really annoying if you close the car and realize your roof is still open you need to open the car, sit in, turn ignition on and the. Close the roof...
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I think in Giulia electronic management works as in any FCA car. So, sunroof works when the ignition off till the front doors won't be opened.
Read owners manual, you can find many adjustments.
In my opinion the electrical services were sacrificed for electrical water pump which cools down a turbocharger. Maximum operation time is 10 minutes.

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Page 32 of the owners manual, the description even includes the set up process if sunroof failed. Have you read it???

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post #13 of 19 (permalink) Old 06-27-2017, 01:35 PM
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Yepp read it. On my german version its on page 34. No info about ignition or not. Just about reset procedure and different opening options for roof and sunshield
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Page 32, June version of the owners manual, sunroof works only at AVV ignition position. So there is no choice.

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Yepp, that's what I experienced
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