Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Great Pacific Northwet
I'm just chiming in again... its been since July 2017, post #106... and you guys are still at it... auto vs. manual!! Both sides have their pluses and minus, and if it is a continued debate amongst the Alfa cognoscenti, then FCA/Alfa Romeo definitely got it wrong by not offering the manual here stateside for the Giulia. I've heard great things about the ZF 8speed... and not just for the Alfa implementation, but other high end brands (to include Aston Martin). Hell, the GM A8 offered in the Caddies (and other GM products) is crap in comparison, and has a class action lawsuit due to some rough shifting/vibrations in certain scenarios. It also shifts slower than the ZF.
But I'm still slap-happy with my Tremec TR6060 6sp manual with 'no-lift' shift and auto rev matching in my '16 ATS-V (does better matching revs than I can double clutching). Had the Giulia QV been offered with a manual tranny in the USA, it certainly would have given me greater pause/harder decision before I upgraded to the ATS-V from my 2013 2L Turbo ATS (the 2L bought well before Alfa landed back on our shores in Fall 2016 with the Giulia QV). My '16 ATS-V was purchased in the Spring of 2017 as a Certified Pre-Owned vehicle with 5200 miles on the odo.
Hopefully everyone finds automotive nirvana concerning this issue. As many have said, the modern manual is on its death bed...fewer and fewer being offered across all the manufacturers. (That said, I believe the top 3 spots of fastest 1/4 mile times for the ATS-V are held by manual equipped ATS-Vs in the Caddy community, so go figure...). Before you know it, everything will be EV and we'll look back at our IC engined cars with deep longing and regret, never mind what kind of transmission it had...
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Last edited by Renaldo; 05-07-2019 at 10:20 PM.