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post #646 of 883 (permalink) Old 04-03-2019, 11:46 AM
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I want to purchase a new Giulia Quadrifoglio with a manual transmission. I have been through the following steps:

- Several different Alfa Romeo dealers told me there was no was that they could order one for me.
- I contacted Alfa Romeo USA, and they told me the same thing.
- I suggested that I would go to Italy, buy the car from a dealer, or from the factory, and then ship it here. They said that they could not help me with that.

They did, however, suggest that it could be done by an automobile broker, and that such people do exist, who buy cars for others, whether within the USA or from other countries.

Can anyone recommend an automobile broker who could help me?

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I want to purchase a new Giulia Quadrifoglio with a manual transmission. I have been through the following steps:

- Several different Alfa Romeo dealers told me there was no was that they could order one for me.
- I contacted Alfa Romeo USA, and they told me the same thing.
- I suggested that I would go to Italy, buy the car from a dealer, or from the factory, and then ship it here. They said that they could not help me with that.

They did, however, suggest that it could be done by an automobile broker, and that such people do exist, who buy cars for others, whether within the USA or from other countries.

Can anyone recommend an automobile broker who could help me?
I don’t think you can do it. If the manual Giulia was not approved for sale in the U.S. and/or the car is not exactly U.S. spec, it can’t be brought to the country for 25 years.

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Can anyone recommend an automobile broker who could help me?
A broker isn't going to be able to help you unless the manual QV has been certified to be sold here; which I don't think it was.

What is in the realm of possibility is to have a foreign national friend who owns a manual QV come visit you, and import their car on a temporary basis. Unfortunately your friend will abandon his car in your garage and you'll be forced to put a lien on it. Even after you own the car, you might have issues registering it, but then you'll at least have all the parts required to swap a US VIN'ed car.

How committed are you to getting a manual QV?
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I think I remember reading that originally the manual transmission version was initially approved and certified for the USA, but then withdrawn by the company for whatever reason.

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Can anyone recommend an automobile broker who could help me?
A broker isn't going to be able to help you unless the manual QV has been certified to be sold here; which I don't think it was.

What is in the realm of possibility is to have a foreign national friend who owns a manual QV come visit you, and import their car on a temporary basis. Unfortunately your friend will abandon his car in your garage and you'll be forced to put a lien on it. Even after you own the car, you might have issues registering it, but then you'll at least have all the parts required to swap a US VIN'ed car.

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If you want to do a swap, I would imagine a European Alfa dealership could order all of the necessary parts. The tricky part would be ECU programming to accept the manual.

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I want to purchase a new Giulia Quadrifoglio with a manual transmission. I have been through the following steps:

- Several different Alfa Romeo dealers told me there was no was that they could order one for me.
- I contacted Alfa Romeo USA, and they told me the same thing.
- I suggested that I would go to Italy, buy the car from a dealer, or from the factory, and then ship it here. They said that they could not help me with that.
Unfortunately the Manual Giulia QV was discontinued after the 2017 model year for ALL markets worldwide (there may have been some 2018s but not too many).

That means you will no longer be able to buy one "new" anywhere.

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....... just another of the many lost Giulia sales!
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Three Updates:

1 - An Alfa Romeo USA customer service rep said that I could import a new, 2019 manual transmission, Giulia Quadrifoglio very simply. All I needed to do was to:

- Get a "letter of compliance" from an automobile broker in my particular state
- Fly to Italy with the letter
- Buy a new 2019, manual trans, Giulia Quadrifoglio from a dealer
- Ship the car home

That was an exciting plan! Obviously, this person was misinformed.

2 - Another of Alfa Romeo USA's customer service people said that cars produced only for the European market could not be imported due to import restrictions. He sent me a long letter, discussing the fact that the "United States has four federal agencies that regulate the importation of vehicles." Basically no way to do it, he said.

3 - I contacted two different international automobile brokers whose specialty is importing specific individual foreign cars for people who hire them to do so. Both told me that they could not do it.

With all of this conflicting info, it's Interesting that JoeCab says that the 2017 was the last model year anyway. Given that their customer service not even sure what the company is producing, and importers unable to help, it looks like all avenues have been exhausted.

Articles like this make the news especially hard to bear. This lucky fellow drove one, apparently a 2017 model. I wonder how many sales have been lost. Not able to post the URL since I am new to the board:

Road and Track Article: "I Drove the Alfa Giulia Quadrifoglio With a Manual and It's Everything You Want It to Be"

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Road and Track Article: "I Drove the Alfa Giulia Quadrifoglio With a Manual and It's Everything You Want It to Be"
Exactly.

Just like some of us like brunettes and some of us like blondes, when it comes to buying a drivers car some of us still want manual. So we don't give a STUFF how good or bad the automatic is. Really, really, really, really, really bad marketing by FIAT/Alfa Romeo. Thankfully I don't lust after modern cars ... I feel sorry for you guys that do. Dump the brand is the answer, if it has to be new.
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Lol, I did have a chance to drive my bro-in-law's Chevy (Holden) SS recently. And, I liked it, even if if had the automatic, as it was really fast, and sounded great. Better than the 2L Giulia? It had been in a road test for some magazine, IIRC, compared to the 500hp Giulia, and they kinda liked the SS better in road manners and handling, plus there is a Chevy dealer on just about every corner. Told him that if he was ever going to sell it, give me a call first, even if he lives in El Paso.

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Lol, I did have a chance to drive my bro-in-law's Chevy (Holden) SS recently. And, I liked it, even if if had the automatic, as it was really fast, and sounded great. Better than the 2L Giulia? It had been in a road test for some magazine, IIRC, compared to the 500hp Giulia, and they kinda liked the SS better in road manners and handling, plus there is a Chevy dealer on just about every corner. Told him that if he was ever going to sell it, give me a call first, even if he lives in El Paso.
Heck, that has killed the 500hp Giulia for ever being on my wish list ... Aussie Holdens should never be a better drive than an Alfa.
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It was a very nice car, nicely equipped, and my genuine racer bro-in-law said it did indeed handle pretty darn well (he's driven many a race car, winning trophies, and owning 85 cars through the years). Not like his new 750 hp Vette (which he wouldn't let me drive, alas, but just as well, lol) of course, but still...

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Problem with Holdens is they fall to pieces within months; trim, etc. ... unless things have improved.
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We shall see.

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Problem with Holdens is they fall to pieces within months; trim, etc. ... unless things have improved.
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