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post #76 of 85 (permalink) Old 09-12-2017, 11:21 AM
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I own a Giulia and love it. These comparisonsns with a VW make me giggle. The Giulia is a sophisticated sports sedan that is at or near the top of its class. The Golf, while it is performance orientated looks like a 20 year old design and has no sex appeal. The Alfa has personality. Germans build cars, Italians create them.
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As I feared and expressed, I saw on the national news that the newest studies show that all the new interactive electronics such as touch screens and voice activation for HVAC, GPS, entertainment, and communication are proving to be much more distracting than previously though, more than just, say, cell phone use, etc.

The test drivers found it very difficult to avoid being drawn to the screen almost against their will. Their comments were that it was hard to use the systems effectively or efficiently, often losing attention of their driving for many seconds at a time.

Who would have thought, duh, lol.

Another reason to perhaps avoid the new cars, regardless of how good they may be in driving, IMO.
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I test drove the Ti with the Sport package and it didnít suck. At all. The OP stated his V8 M3 is essentially faster than the turbo 4. Yah think? Still not slow by any stretch, was perfectly balanced, and just too cool to look at or sit in.


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I test drove the Ti with the Sport package and it didnít suck. At all. The OP stated his V8 M3 is essentially faster than the turbo 4. Yah think? Still not slow by any stretch, was perfectly balanced, and just too cool to look at or sit in.


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At some point. . . just how fast can you go. . . how quick can you accelerate. . . on public roads without getting into trouble? Crash your car or get a ticket?

It's not often that we talk about "on the track" I need to more power so I can that other car. As it stands, all of my cars have more track potential than I have dring skills. I can't tap into the full potential of any of my cars anyway.
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Yes. True. But the Golf R is a special car regardless the badge. Just the garden variety GTI is better driving than 95% of the cars sold today and I'd have no issues driving one every day.


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I'll argue this one. Coming from a Mk6 Golf R, the new iteration, the MK7, isn't that special since it became part of the VW lineup.

The MK6 was barely special because the recipe was changed when they just slapped a bigger turbo on their GTI engine and put a FWD-bias Haldex AWD.

It stopped being special when the VR6 disappeared.

It does push out more power than the Alfa with 292hp.
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Yup--when the shifter is too big it will get you every time.

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At some point. . . just how fast can you go. . . how quick can you accelerate. . . on public roads without getting into trouble? Crash your car or get a ticket?

It's not often that we talk about "on the track" I need to more power so I can that other car. As it stands, all of my cars have more track potential than I have dring skills. I can't tap into the full potential of any of my cars anyway.
While I appreciate what you're saying, acceleration is still not illegal as long as you aren't "stunting". And "extra" power is required to accelerate quickly at highway speeds for safety reasons, which can result in higher speed potential than is legal, indeed this has been true for decades.

Conversely, rapid acceleration is not necessarily a desirable feature by itself as any petrolhead who drives a Tesla S can attest.

What matters is the driving experience, or just buy a Camry.

The Giulia is one of those very special cars. You either get it and would give up a lot to drive one daily, or you don't. If you don't get the Giulia you need to buy a Camry. Much more suitable car for those who want only what a car does rather than what a car is.
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" If you don't get the Giulia you need to buy a Camry"

Lol, of course, many would differ with that conclusion, since while the Giulia is an accomplished vehicle, we get that, it is not the only proper game in town, as we have already established.

I would rather say, that if one doesn't get the idea of "the sporty sedan" in general, and the style of driving that it invites and allows, then yes, a Camry is suitable.

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I donít get the distain for the Model S. I thought it was a great driving experience- and not just for the face melting acceleration. Itís not a sports car- nor was it intended as such- but itís a competent sports sedan.

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I've ridden in the S and X, and was very impressed with the fit and finish (easily Audi class if not better) and, of course the acceleration, but was not as impressed with the large distracting screen in the dash. As well, they do have a heavy feel to them, as the batteries are pretty heavy, but the CG is very low helping the handling they do have. They are not inexpensive by any means, at all, but I do believe they are very viable vehicles for how they function, if you have tons of money.

LOL, a little different than the electric Fiat 500 I just drove last week. Fun in it's own way, though.

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