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post #46 of 360 (permalink) Old 03-28-2017, 06:21 PM
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the duel clutch tranny shifts nice and i bet its faster paddles are still fun just no clutch
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"Just" no clutch? That's "WHAT, no clutch???"

We've beaten this issue to death, so I apologize, but for some of us including myself, lack of a clutch pedal is a deal-breaker.

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Could one buy an auto in the US and import just the manual transmission itself from Europe and have it installed? You could sell the auto to recoup some costs.

I think the problem would be with the electronics. The engine electronics are likely different for auto and manual cars. You may need several computers along with the manual transmission.




Perhaps if I use that spare transmission for my GTV6...
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Oh, and likely void your warranty too.
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Ive seen this done with E46 3 series BMW's. People will have an automatic and then install a manual. It's a lot of work but if you really, really, really want to, you can. On a new car though...i dunno...
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I think the manual version is already certified for the US, just not for sale.

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Ummm, sure, lol. Personally, I don't understand SUVs.

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Maybe Alfa will allow special orders in a few years' time...
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We can hope, esp if they manage to smooth out the reported coarseness of the manual shifting?

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I do not think that Alfa will use anything other than paddle type transmissions because most of the car manufacturers have paddle type transmissions and everyone can drive the cars. I think that paddle type transmission shift faster and you cannot miss a shift and damage the engine or transmission. I like using a gear shift, but I believe that it will never be in style.
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" but I believe that it will never be in style"

I guess that nowadays, learning a skill such as shifting is no longer in, most being somewhat lazy, getting their thrills out of texting on smart phones, lol.

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Alfa needs to please customers to sell cars. If enough of us ask they may reconsider. Since they sell manual versions in the rest of the world US customers are not asking for something unreasonable.
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Could one buy an auto in the US and import just the manual transmission itself from Europe and have it installed? You could sell the auto to recoup some costs.

I think the problem would be with the electronics. The engine electronics are likely different for auto and manual cars. You may need several computers along with the manual transmission.




Perhaps if I use that spare transmission for my GTV6...
It's usually a very expensive task to swap in a manual in most modern cars. If the Giulia uses a front sub-frame, you'll need to source that. But, there's no guarantee it will actually fit the chassis. The front axles might be different between the auto and manual. The drive shaft for the rear wheels might be different as well. Then, there's the differential. You'll also need to source the bits that go on the console for the manual. The paddle shifters will need to be removed and any steering column parts will need to be sourced. If the dash pod displays the PRNDL, you'll need to swap that out too. Even after installing all of the hard parts, you'll need to hack into the brain box and make adjustments to the various computers.

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Osso, yes pretty much what I suspected but worse.

I could live with the useless paddle shifters on the wheel though, although it certainly would confuse the second owner!
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