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post #16 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-04-2017, 07:29 AM
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That's the one-piece S3 manifold. It won't work.

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4 years ago I posted this link to Vicks for the 1-4 branch manifold for someone else (PN: 115.88.01.705.00)

the link still works (as if the piece is still available) but the price hasn't gone down much!!
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/4692922-post12.html

If your '91 has a cable throttle (running over the head) then it'll also have the heatshield, in which case you need the manifold that is drilled for the heatshield (drilling is on #4, on the 1&4 branch)
If you have the earlier solid rod throttle control, it'll have no heatshield.

Just one more thing to remember, as you have a classified up and running.....the S4 spider manifold is unique to S4 in that it is designed to clear the power steering box so make sure the PN is correct.

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Thanks, kuni123456 but that's a one-piece unit for an '82-'89.
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Did you see Joe's response in your other thread? Centerline has one.

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/alfa...91-spider.html

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Yea, Centerline!

Yep, saw that. Will call them tomorrow. BTW, the manifold DOES appear to have steel nuts.
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Spiderserie4,

Mine has a solid throttle attached to the firewall with no heat shield. Thanks for all the detailed info.

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Steel nuts not good. Order the brass ones from Centerline as well.

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And new gaskets as well, I would imagine. Are they copper or brass?

Should I inquire about that retro-fit bracket?

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Yes, if you're replacing the manifold do the top and bottom gaskets at the same time. It would be false economy not to.

You can ask JoeCab at Centerline but I doubt they'll have that bracket. I found one to retrofit my '91 but it was from someone who was parting out a car. Alfa Parts Exchange *might* be able to dig one up, but Larry tends not to have "fiddle-farty" parts like that. Can't hurt to ask, though.

Your best bet would probably be to cut out a piece of cardboard to fit then cut it out of steel plate. You'll just need four longer bolts. It doesn't have to be perfect, just something to hold the manifolds together at the bottom to add strength.
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I, of course, knew that neither Alfa nor drivers would ever accept a smelly car as normal.
I just re-read this and I had to chuckle. You'd be *amazed* what Alfa and Alfa drivers have been willing to accept

"Is the oil *spraying* out or dribbling? Just dribbling? It's fine."

"Eh, you're not supposed to use second gear anyway."

"Those flashing warning lights are for ambience. Don't worry about it."
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Quest for the part is at an end: Centerline had a NOS 1-4 exhaust manifold as well as a complete set of gaskets and brand new brass nuts. They're on their way. Couldn't ask for more than that! I'll revisit this thread to report on the "cure's" effectivenes. Thanks, once again for everyone's help.
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So, as it turns out, the 1-4 manifold from Centerline didn't fit after all. It was for an earlier, Spica injected engine. The quest continues...
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