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post #16 of 43 (permalink) Old 06-05-2019, 08:54 PM
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Of course I watched the video. Fram's had a bad rep for many years. Have Ferarri owners stopped changing filters-or do they use Wix filters painted orange?
I don't know. The ones you see on the Ferraris, do they have the grippy black stuff on them?

Or, is there a European filter supplier with orange filters?

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I don't know. The ones you see on the Ferraris, do they have the grippy black stuff on them?

Or, is there a European filter supplier with orange filters?
I don't know if all Fram filters have that grip stuff. The filters I have seen are Fram, and I think the orange color is a trademark. I thought about this awhile back, long before that video was made.
There are some blogs discussing the subject. Here's one from 2011, so the Fram issue isn't new.
https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/th...ilters.334723/
BTW, the filters are not the same on 2 filter engines. One is a full flow filter the other is a bypass filter.

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I don't know if all Fram filters have that grip stuff. The filters I have seen are Fram, and I think the orange color is a trademark. I thought about this awhile back, long before that video was made.
Fram used to be big in Europe. Maybe they're going for originality?

Or maybe not all have the "grippy"?

I don't know. I avoid them.

If I had a Ferrari, I'd paint a Wix filter orange.
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Fram used to be big in Europe. Maybe they're going for originality?
Yeah, they used to be OEM on Ferraris in the 60s, apparently, and some folks are still using them to be "original" despite the fact that the filter is a completely different (and crappy) internal design now. It's kind of nuts, IMO.

This is why I don't hang with the Ferrari guys. Also I'm not rich, but it's mostly the filter thing.
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Yeah, they used to be OEM on Ferraris in the 60s, apparently, and some folks are still using them to be "original" despite the fact that the filter is a completely different (and crappy) internal design now. It's kind of nuts, IMO.

This is why I don't hang with the Ferrari guys. Also I'm not rich, but it's mostly the filter thing.
Same here. They've been begging me to hang with them.

I say "No way!! Not with the orange filter on your car."
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As a kid I remember all the NASCAR guys had the FRAM decals on their front fenders. I have a few old NOS PH7 filters probably from the 80's and at that time, they were owned by Allied out of Providence, RI, I suspect the ensuing years and ownership changes may have diminished the quality of their product, their reputation or created an urban legend, IDK. I think a lot of Ferrari's in the day, used the FRAM HP16 filter in pairs, but also seem to recall Baldwin filters in place of the FRAM's.

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Baldwin filters are excellent. Not available at the retail level, but available online.
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Zoro.com has them at awesome prices

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The Ferrari filters were Baldwin...I never installed a Fram in any Ferrari..
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The Ferrari filters were Baldwin...I never installed a Fram in any Ferrari..
It's a relief to know there is a quality filter available for Ferraris. However, there are hundreds of photos on the 'net showing a Fram filter fitted to a Ferrari engine.
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In reference to post 14, regarding Fran filters, to set the record straight I don’t have any affiliation, or connection to Fran filters, use at your own risk! Fran O’Connor. 😃

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It's a relief to know there is a quality filter available for Ferraris. However, there are hundreds of photos on the 'net showing a Fram filter fitted to a Ferrari engine.
An Infamnia!!!!!

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Double edged sword, the old part numbers on the part would do it on 105/115 cars, but they are Alfa branded, depends on who’s paying attention!

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Since I've been using the Mobil 1 15W-50 lubricant, with the higher levels of the zinc additives comparable to the older oils, I also use the Mobil 1 oil filters. The consensus seems to be that they are an excellent filter, made by Champion, which also makes the Royal Purple, etc. I just wish they had the black grippy coating on the ends like the Fram, which can be useful if your hand is oily, I would gather.

Haven't used Fram for years, since our early Alfas, for which we never had a problem with excessive bearing wear with them, easily putting on 180k miles, still with decent oil pressure and no observable cam/tappet wear.

But, that was then.

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