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1972 Alfa Romeo Color Chart -- Discussion Forum

Please post in this thread your comments, suggestions, discussion, errata, enhancements, etc. about the 1972 Alfa Romeo Color Chart.

I will read your posts and edit the reference material accordingly.

I too am a guest on this bulletin board -- and I do appreciate that someone makes disk space and bandwidth available. However, I understand that there is no free lunch. So, if you find this reference material useful, please do consider supporting the AlfaBB by subscribing as a member and/or making a donation.

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In case you have color chart books of the 1950s and/or 1960s that I could borrow (or maybe even buy at a reasonable price), please let me know. I'm looking for these materials to create additional references -- I'm sure other Alfisti will appreciate it as much as I do.

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Ruedi,

Somehow I missed all of this when you were posting it. Now that I see the thread its AWESOME referance for those searching for colors and their codes.

Thanks for all the effort to keep us informed.

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Thanks for the roses, Simon.

I had the same problem everybody else seems to have:

Based on a paint name (usually provided by the Alfa Romeo historical archive),
figure out what the paint code is,
then figure out what the color looks like, and finally
find a supplier for the paint.

I bought these color charts a while ago on eBay. Still haven't told my wife how much I paid for it -- even if I drop the first digit, she'd still think I'm crazy.

The AlfaBB gave me an opportunity to share this information and hopefully, the members can help to improve on it.

Cheers,

Ruedi

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WOW

Thanx Ruedi,

Impressive ammount of info there!!!
Being in the process of looking at a new spray job the options seem much better....thanx for the excellent work!!!

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Ruedi,

Thanks for all the hard work in compiling this information and presenting it on the BB.
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Thank you all for the "Thank you" notes.

I don't want to appear to be ungrateful, but please let's stop the "Thank yous" here.

My intent for this thread was to improve the quality of the information and discuss paint and interior related issues (what to get and where to get them). Please, let's focus on that.

Cheers,

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Reudi,

AR-129 (Avorio/Ivory/Ivoire/Elfenbein) appears to be the same in '72 as '69. Do you have any information that would confirm or deny this?

Jorge needs the right paint code and your list is as close as i've come yet to having a real paint code.

Talked to my father wh had been talking to Jorge last week, said he sounded a bit rough... have you been by to see him lately? I'm going to give a call later today to check on him and see how he's doing. Sounds like he's been battling the flu and I am a little worried. Sometimes jorge works too hard.

Can you check on him for us???

Hope you're doing well with the 2600!

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The Giulia & 1750 thru 1971 info I have does not list AR 129. It does, however, list AR 103 - Ivory (P.F.); the P.F. (Pininfarina)meaning this color was available on Spiders only. If 103 and 129 are the same color, perhaps Alfa changed the code number after deciding to provide this color for all model ranges, not just the Spider.

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Papajam,

So the code I will need to find a color match for is AR103???

If so thatnks a million.

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If anyone has any information concerning the paint code AR 411, I would greatly appreciate hearing about it.

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J,
According to Alfa DIASS pub #1570 dated 9/70, yes, AR 103 is the correct Ivory for a '69 1750 Spider. Whether 103 can be crossed to a Ditzler or PPG or whomever code is another matter.

Bob,
Have no list listing on AR 411. What year and model? A later model Blue perhaps?

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Papa,

Thanks, that's what I needed to find:

AR-103 Avario P.F.- Ivory (Straw) (Ditzler 81870, DuPont 37001)

You're the best!

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Jim,

Years ago Tom Zat was selling paint described as duplicates of colors used on '50s to '70s Alfas, and AR 411 is in his color chart, described as white, and used on all '56-'66 models. The color is actually a beige rather than white, and a reference book I have lists "banana beige" (no color code given) as a color used on late '50s Giulietta Sprints. So when I had my '59 Sprint painted nearly ten years ago, I told the shop to paint it AR 411. It is an absolutely striking color on a Sprint, but I've never been to track down AR 411 on any Alfa paint charts.

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Interesting! This is all I've been able to find on Giulietta codes, so far. Non-Alfa Giulietta paint codes.

Jim

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AR-103: According to my database and Glasurit paint swatches dated Oct-1987 I have, AR-103 was available in three different shades. It appears AR-103 "Avorio Pininfarina" was introduced in 1969, followed by an AR-103 "Avorio" that is a shade lighter in 1978, and by an AR-103 "Avorio" that is a shade yellower than the 1969 version and a bit darker than the 1978 version. However, that is not a problem because all three shades are available from Glasurit (now also a PPG company). Undated (and incomplete) paint swatches from Spiess, Hecker & Co. have an AR-103 listed as 19 887 (38.887) which seems to be the same color as the 1979 version from Glasurit that is slightly yellower. A DuPont paint swatch dated Mar-80 for AR-103 (code 37001) seems to match the Glasurit paint swatch for 1978.

AR-129: My database indicates that this color was available on 1980-85 cars but since it is in the 1972 Color chart, that can't be true. I have not seen any cross-reference that AR-129 and AR-103 colors are the same. However, comparing the Glasurit paint swatches gave me the impression that AR-129 and the 1969 Avorio Pininfarina are almost identical (at least to my eye).

AR-411: I have no records of such a color. I'll see if I can drum up a Tom Zat list somewhere.

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