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Did the noise level from your gearbox seem lower once you replaced the torn gaitors?

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Did the noise level from your gearbox seem lower once you replaced the torn gaitors?
I did not notice any change.
Please note that I have a gearbox with lightened gears and new syncros.
It is buttery smooth up shifting and down shifting.
I have extensive soundproofing on the entire inner body including inside the doors.
Noise from beneath the car is pretty well muted.

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During this process, I discovered the source of my oil leak.
Last year I purchased new boots for the transmission shifter. When I took this apart, I noticed that I did not have the small inner boot at the base of the shifter.........????? It is that boot that seals the top of the transmission and prevents the oil from splashing out if it gets beyond the concave washers. DUH!

What you see now is the correct boot with the clamp around the base sealing both the upper and lower boot. I also made sure the shifter was rotated as far left as possible before tightening the clamping bolt.
Its still wrong.

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Its still wrong.
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The inner shift boot clamps to the tower.

What your calling the lower boot does not clamp to anything on the trans. You put the inner boot on then put the lower boot on then the metal bucket. Then you put on the outer boot.

The reason you have gear oil on your floor is the lower boot you have clamped to the shift tower is pushed down on top of the trans vents. The puts fluid on the under side of the boot and it flows down and works it way under the boot to the inside of your car.

Also see post 594 which is my post after you posted your pictures yesterday.
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Agree with Jim G.
That small inner boot traps any oil thrown past the convex washers and lets it drain back down to the top of the transmission turret, and back thru some drain holes back into the gearbox. You will see the drain holes if you remove that small boot and look closely. Not that I'm sure you could get this wrong, but stay INSIDE/ABOVE the vents Jim mentions...secure it direct to the round turret section.

It's the first line of defence against oil splash/leakage. Putting that smallest boot on the outside of ANY other boot, rather than direct to the turret, is what made some oil run down the outside of the next boot and onto your floor.

The crushed look of the next boot installed by you should also be a clue....it shouldn't need to be crushed like that to be installed. It sits further 'out' in the chain.

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The inner shift boot clamps to the tower.

What your calling the lower boot does not clamp to anything on the trans. You put the inner boot on then put the lower boot on then the metal bucket. Then you put on the outer boot.

The reason you have gear oil on your floor is the lower boot you have clamped to the shift tower is pushed down on top of the trans vents. The puts fluid on the under side of the boot and it flows down and works it way under the boot to the inside of your car.

Also see post 594 which is my post after you posted your pictures yesterday.
Got it.

Thanks for the heads up. I will rework and repost the photos.

Rework complete.
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I took Allegra to the dance yesterday.
This is a low res video as I came through the no acceleration portion of the hill climb. When past the marker cone, it was WOT

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Great pic! Great car! She sounds fantastic in the video. Your restoration has been an inspiration!

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Sweeeeet!

The passenger seat is 15 miles an hour faster than the drivers seat.

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Gary, I’ve been following your restoration practically from day1. This has been by far one of the better threads on this forum and an inspiration for many. Job very well done!

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I have read through your entire thread..one word ...AWESOME!!!! I am restoring a Barn find 79 and doing a Euro body package. Leaving the injected 2 litre (car was stored for many years and low miles). Rusty beyond my initial assessment. Mainly sills and floor pans wheel well and the accompanying sheet metal.Your project is very inspiring!!

The older I get.. the faster I was....
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This thread is feeding the wormhole that is sucking me into Alfa world. It started innocently enough--a beater parts car local to me for $800 got me thinking about the fun times of driving my brother's 1750 back in the day--including such adventures as doing the head gasket that I blew--with my dad and my brother--out in the orchard where the car died.

Nice work, lovely attention to detail--and I swear that Mitutoyo dial caliper is the same one that we boys chipped in on for a Christmas present for my dad when the Japanese precision tools started showing up in Vancouver in the early '70s--another crack machinist who could fix anything.

OMG, your car sounded great in the video!
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Gentlemen,

Thank you for your kind words.
I am getting a bit more time in the Alfa and have plans to show it in a couple of car shows this summer.

Still frustrated with tuning the Webers. Purchased some 34 chokes and will pull the 36's out and see if they help. After that, it will be a professional Weber tuner in Chicago.

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Welcome to the AlfaBB. Honoured that your first post would be on my thread!
Regarding the wormhole. Wormhole?? Yeah, I guess you are right, once you have entered it is impossible to get back out. Then it gets personal and it's over, you are hooked. Can't think of a better hobby though.
I am really glad I was able to enable your Alfa addiction.

This forum and its decorum are one of a kind in my opinion. Almost every response to posts here are positive and provide guidance to help overcome the issue at hand.
Not so on other the other forums I am a part of.

Thanks to the administrators and members for making this forum a great place to get involved.

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