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post #16 of 21 (permalink) Old 07-12-2019, 08:27 PM Thread Starter
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Would love to see your car one day Karter

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Please join the Facebook group “Aussie Alfa 750/101 Owners”.
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It amazes me the stupid crap governments do. Which in turn ends up hurting a segment of business in the state or country. Two of the marine wholesalers I do business with have sent out letters stating they will no longer ship to California due the large amount of regulations they now have.

Asbestos has not been allowed in brake shoes/pads and clutch's since 1991. The same with gaskets. As far as the exhaust shields go. As long as when you take it off you don't grind it in to a fine powder and snort it. Your safe.

I had to deal with the Australian laws years ago when I sold a wood Chris Craft to a guy in Australia. They were insistent that all the wood had to be sprayed with a chemical for some type of bugs that could be in wood. But the boat was not built out of any of the woods on there list and all the wood had a finish on it. No amount of back and forth that the shipper had with his counterpart in Australia would change it.

So it was sprayed inside and out and loaded into a container. The chemical dulled the finished corroded the inside of the gauges. Needless to say it cost the new owner thousands of dollars to repair the boat that was perfect and fresh out.

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The asbestos laws have been around in Australia for a many years, but a few years back some do gooder minster for something or other decided to crack down on it. I know of a dealer who bought a highly original mustang gt350 Shelby in. he employed an asbestos inspector as required by the law to inspect the car. he sent his mechanics to the docks to supervise him. he ignored their pleas not to destruct parts of the car . he cut through wiring looms, dug out sealant around window rubbers, took chunks of sound deadening and I believe even scraped paint. he then charged the owner a vast sum of money to do this. the damage bill I heard was up around 20k. needless to say he is now suing the inspector. you have to love bureaucrats. another guy was importing containers of bikes from Japan. he found out about the laws as the container was on the way. I seem to remember his had something like 40 bikes in the container. he had been a bike dismantler and wrecker for years. he was up for a hefty fine on each bike. he told me that overnight he had all but been put out of business. he didnt think he was going to survive.

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What a great reply. You must be a fast typist to boot!
Can you please explain the “undercoating” re asbestos.

My car was assessed by the shipping agent. It was shipped with out brake pads. I wanted to fit fresh pads but they needed a certificate regarding asbestos content, so it was easier to ship with them removed.
I had already removed a heat shield on a trip a few months before shipping.
I put all my faith in the shipping agent as they do this daily. I did grit my teeth, and yes I was NERVOUS.
It arrived, sailed through customs so fast that I was not expecting it for a few days. I asked if we could delay for a few days till I’m rostered off. The shipping agent agent said, “ you don’t want to pay storage for two or three days-trust me”.
The Alfa was delivered by an excellent tow truck driver who helped my dad (I was at work) position the car in my garage. Remember, it was not driveable at this point.
It was painless in the end and the car did not have a mark on it apart from a few cat prints (it sat in the indoor LA depot for 3 weeks)
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Undercoating... in the day it was common to use a spray-on material that was almost the consistency of mud when it dried and just as friable. It wasn't the same rock hard stuff you find on SS's and Sprints which was slathered inside the trunk floor and walls. Both types most probably have micro fine asbestos fibers in it to act as a enforcement. Roofing and chimney flashing used it too so it was a cheap way to reinforce the goo as it dried and reduce cracking. The Spider undercoating could be this stuff and have blisters where it has released on the substrate. If any part of it is showing this blistering or peeling off it could raise the hackles of an inspector who might declare it to have asbestos in it just to be ornery.. like peeling lead paint. I'm only speculating but that could be something to address with a lab report in hand.
Same for "body seams" that is noted in the agency paperwork.. I think that is far fetched even by the inspection standards.. My take is if the importer hasn't taken any step at all to recognize the rules the things like body seams will just be a way for the inspector to "pile' on as we say in football and throw the kitchen sink at the offender. It's like all law enforcement. If you argue a speeding ticket, the officer will find your car to fail on anything he sees as unsafe and have the car impounded. Just don't psss 'em off.

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We acquired a Californian `61 Spider this year and all it required in New Zealand was documentation of source of origin, proof it wasn`t stolen and what we call a VIN test which is a structure and safety test. No mention of asbestos here by way of declaration or checks on arrival. A lot simpler and cheaper.
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Every country is different. The Swiss are famous for rejecting imported cars that are restored without using spot welds where the factory used them. It can be a very slippery slope.
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