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Through the power of The Google I found a website that is literally dedicated to fuel filler neck parts and hoses.

I ordered a couple of feet of this:

https://www.fillernecksupply.com/2-1...e-16731822503/

It was a tight squeeze over the filler side, and I used a wide clamp on the narrower tank side, but it worked well and is rated for fuel. Not a hint of fuel smell since, and it was cheap---plus it has a nice Alfa-red stripe!
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I was lucky in that when I changed the filler hose in the Milano, I was able to find a generic Goodyear hose, guaranteed impermeable to gasoline fumes. Trimming it to length, it fit just fine, and eliminated the faint gas fumes in the interior.

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Website with filler hose:

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Through the power of The Google I found a website that is literally dedicated to fuel filler neck parts and hoses.

I ordered a couple of feet of this:

https://www.fillernecksupply.com/2-1...e-16731822503/
I looked at reducers on that site, I think they would provide a lower cost solution. I wanted to try the HPSI site, given the attempt by folks here to have a number of NLA rubber items repopped. The cost made me have to think about it, though.

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Acura out of the shop tomorrow (a sordid tale of bearings, halfshafts, shop press mishaps and more bearings) and the GTV6 back in.

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I was talking to my main professional mechanic buddy about the intermittent miss. We both came to the conclusion that before I spend a bunch of time chasing it, I should give the car a good "italian tune-up." The car sat for years, and all I've done so far is idle it until it's warm enough to trip the fans on. I just didn't want to burn one of my "moving" permits from the DMV, but I just might have to.

So, in order to be properly prepared, I need to finish the work on the tank, emissions, and fuel pump plumbing (although my temporary fix on the fuel pump just might have to do). If I can get that done this weekend, and the torrential rains abate for a while, I'll take it up and down the road at speed. I won't do anything stupid, as the tires are well passed their throw away date. I may just run up to the smog shop and get my first fail so that I can figure out what to do next. Or, it might surprise me and pass. (Its okay, laugh, I don't believe that will happen either.)

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Apologies if you have already done this, but before the initial smog check I would make sure that the voltage at the O2 sensor is varying. It must be fully connected, with the engine warmed up in order for this to happen. I have never done this measurement on a GTV6 but on the Milano it is easy to get at the wire from the firewall in the engine bay. On my Milanos I can tell when the O2 feedback loop is working because it causes the idle speed to vary slightly at a rate of about 0.5-1Hz when warm. As far as I know the GTV6 should be similar but hopefully someone more familiar with the GTV6 will chime in if I am wrong.

Once that is working, if there are no vacuum leaks or sticky injectors and the ignition is in good shape, it should pass unless the cat is worn out.

Good luck!

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Apologies if you have already done this, but before the initial smog check I would make sure that the voltage at the O2 sensor is varying. ...

Good luck!
Great tip, thanks a bunch. I'll take the time to do that. The PO hacked the wiring for the heated O2 and put in a universal one wire. I do have an "experienced" three wire that I should probably give a try. Having never put the car under a load, I don't know if the existing one is really working.

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I was talking to my main professional mechanic buddy about the intermittent miss. We both came to the conclusion that before I spend a bunch of time chasing it, I should give the car a good "italian tune-up." The car sat for years, and all I've done so far is idle it until it's warm enough to trip the fans on. I just didn't want to burn one of my "moving" permits from the DMV, but I just might have to.

So, in order to be properly prepared, I need to finish the work on the tank, emissions, and fuel pump plumbing (although my temporary fix on the fuel pump just might have to do). If I can get that done this weekend, and the torrential rains abate for a while, I'll take it up and down the road at speed. I won't do anything stupid, as the tires are well passed their throw away date. I may just run up to the smog shop and get my first fail so that I can figure out what to do next. Or, it might surprise me and pass. (Its okay, laugh, I don't believe that will happen either.)

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Make sure all fuel hoses are new and plumbing is safe and do the "permanent" fix (whatever that is) on the fuel pump before taking it out on the road. After all of the work you have done, it will be worth it. Then you can concentrate on any running issues that may crop up and know that you are safe and have covered your bases.

And get some new tires!!!! You will need them anyway, might as well get them mounted up before you go out on the road!

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Time to get supplies to finish the headlight rewire and replacement.

I also need to figure out what these two relays were supposed to do. Both were just hanging



And, it looks like this was tweaked.




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Time to keep track of tasks necessary to get the car on the road.




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Okay, I'm getting some of these at 7' and 3': BEST QUALITY H4 / 9003 High Temperature Headlight Socket / Plug / Connector. We Welcome Custom Orders! All of our Head Light Sockets / Plugs / Connectors are made with USA Wire! - Innova Design & Dist. Inc. (909) 971-0000

And a couple of these: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/h...0811/overview/

I already have a couple of waterproof relay boxes from a bit of JY diving.

I doubt that I'll get everything before the weekend, but at least I have a plan.

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I have a set of old Hella's that I bought from a guy on the ABB and I installed relays and 14 gauge wire. I rarely drive at night but I had to leave home early a couple of weeks ago for a day at the track and I was surprised at how well they lit up the road on high beams.
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