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Geneva 2008: Bertone B.A.T. 11's clandestine debut

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Bertone's not officially exhibiting at Geneva this year, as the company is going through some upheaval, but it still made a splash in Switzerland. The B.A.T. 11, paying direct homage to the original B.A.T. concepts, was unveiled in Geneva at the AutoDesignNight event. The car was commissioned by Gary Kaberle, and you'd never know that there's an Alfa Romeo 8C hiding under the sheetmetal that's strongly evocative of the 1955 B.A.T. 5. Tapered fins and faired in wheels follow the design fundamentals laid down 50-plus years ago by Nuccio Bertone and Franco Scaglione, and the unique wheels with two layers of spokes are a 21st-century interpretation of the classic Borrani wires. Surfaces with a mix of soft and crisp forms and details still look futuristic, even while paying homage to the past. Financial woes or not, Bertone is still one of the world's premiere houses of automotive haute couture, and the B.A.T. 11 will hopefully not be the company's last gasp. Click the source to view more photos of the B.A.T. 11 concept at its off-site debut in Geneva yesterday.

[Source: Car Design News, Photo by Brett Patterson]

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Its a shame that Bertone is almost out of business. I guess they never got an orders after 2000

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and the B.A.T. 11 will hopefully not be the company's last gasp.
with a design like this, it might very well be the nail in the coffin

the original BAT cars were true aerodynamic studies and beautiful in their purposefulness, '50s curvaceous style, and purity of design. but this monstrosity is just a stylistic "homage". and then on top of that, its really a Maserati/Fiat/Ferrari under the skin.

i know, i know . . . if you can't say anything nice . . .

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Yeah...I kind of stopped preferring their designs after the 1970's. If they designed an Alfa, Fiat, Maserati, Ferrari, Lancia or Lamborghini there was always a PininFarina or Italdesign model right around the corner that was better than theirs. What a shame...they were legendary once but I guess all good things come to an end.
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... but this monstrosity is just a stylistic "homage". ...
You should do a little research on the car, before commenting like this... The story is also posted on a thread on this BB...

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You should do a little research on the car, before commenting like this
Enrique, i have.

taste is a subjective thing. being a designer myself, it really pains me that such a highly revered design house has been going down hill for so long.

but as to what else i said, i stand behind it. take the skin off and interior out of an 8c, and there is no Alfa left.
also, this is from an interview with a spokesperson for Bertone :

"the company also says as it is merely a 'styling exercise' ”

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Dion,
There is a bit more to this concept... I found the thread with the background story: "Bertone Cancer Car In Doubt"...

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smestas, you need to stop posting small points about single stories in multiple threads. It disrupts the continuity of our discussions. How about keeping the updates in the same thread, smestas?
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There is a bit more to this concept
yes, its a tragic story, and Gary Kaberle's heart was in the right place. i wish him and his family the best.

what i am saying is : does this "homage" really qualify being called Alfa or "B.A.T." ?

i also argue that the Stile Bertone designers David Wilkie & Valery Muller, who designed the 11, came up with something nowhere near as beautiful in aesthetics or function as the original B.A.T.s designed by Franco Scaglione & Nuccio Bertone.

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