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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 09-27-2018, 07:07 AM Thread Starter
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Arrow Alfetta-style Oil Pan & pump

***Consensus is that this is a 101 style pan/pump, not an Alfetta***

This oil pan and matching oil pump head came installed in the engine I now run in my Spider (it's back to a traditional Spider oil pan and pump)

Make me an offer, because I can't use it - expect shipping (added) in the USA to be about $20 for USPS flat rate...
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Looks rather like 101 Veloce than Alfetta...

1975 Alfetta; ex 1973 Spider; ex 1984 Alfetta Quadrifoglio Oro
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Looks rather like 101 Veloce than Alfetta...
Hmmm... could be - the engine was installed in a 'Locost', and the P.O. indicated he thought the oil pan was for an Alfetta.

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Definitely not an Alfetta pan or pump.

1969 1750 Spider Veloce w/dual webers, 1969 1750 Berlina, 1971 1750 Spider Veloce w/ dual webers, 1985 Spider Veloce 23,000 orig. miles, {Two} 1986 Spider Veloces, 1987 Spider Veloce bought new, 1988 Quadrifoglio, 1991 164S, Plus several more. I think they are breeding.
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I just got 2 more. Now I have a Matta. I must be crazy.
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Definitely not an Alfetta pan or pump.
Thanks - I'll edit...

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Looks rather like 101 Veloce than Alfetta...
Not a veloce pan, rather an aluminum 101 normale pan used after 60/61 which superseded the stamped steel one.
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It is a modified 101 normale pan... Note the door hinge trap doors to keep the oil from sloshing to one side or forward and aft.
pretty cool old skool part.
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You win the prize. It is a modified 1600 Normale 1 piece cast aluminum sump some of my customers build to use in place of the more costly Veloce sump. I need more pictures of the pump to see if it's one of mine. If so as the bottom has been removed, I will reset the gear index for whoever might buy it. If it IS one of mine, it will have my initials and a serial number as below, and I can tell you build specifics and customer as well as engine information.
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Here's an image of the pan numbering... I'll examine the pump tonight!

History - Tom Suppa rebuilt the engine I now have to use this pan & pump in a 'Locost' - see https://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/car...ing-issue.html
and https://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/car...e-3500rpm.html
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I think this is where the "Alfetta" mis-identification came from: https://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/eng...-dry-sump.html

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Tom WAS my customer for this pump. New buyer can send it to me for check up and re-set up at N.C.
This was a well functioning race / performance set-up combination for a 2L as I remember. There are a few of these modified 1600 Normale sumps out there as inexpensive Veloce sump substitutes. For pure race you use them with an oil cooler and oil thermostat. Abut the same exact depth at the Veloce sump, and much less costly if you smash it. You can even buy new reproductions of this sump as well as the real Veloce sump with cooling labyrinth underneath.
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Bump...

Someone could get a real bargain, as I'd like to see it applied instead of gathering dust...

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Lets see... Just the pump is a $600+ item. AND you get it re-set up for your application for shipping costs! The pump is good for any engine that uses the studded bottom type pick up, 750-101-1300, 1600, 105 up to race 2L. Street, performance or pure race with adjusted clearances.
Maybe that will help Bruce?
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