Alfa Romeo 2000 Sportiva Bertone - Alfa Romeo Bulletin Board & Forums
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old 12-01-2007, 08:27 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Denmark
Posts: 1,211
Alfa Romeo 2000 Sportiva Bertone

Following the hint from Carlo, some pictures from Auto dépoca in October 2007.
Carlo, i hope that you have some interesthing new indput
Attached Images
     
2000 touring sp is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 38 (permalink) Old 12-01-2007, 08:46 AM
Banned
 
dretceterini's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posts: 6,139
RaMei makes nice 1/43rd scale models of the sportiva spider



Kit:

RaMei Modelle

Built up:

RaMei Modelle

Built up model of the test car with the areodynamic tuffts on it:

RaMei Modelle


There are a number of models made of the coupe. Here is a model made by ABC of the silver coupe:

http://www.hobby-carmodel.com/images/image_5109.jpg

Last edited by dretceterini; 12-01-2007 at 08:56 AM.
dretceterini is offline  
post #3 of 38 (permalink) Old 12-01-2007, 09:47 AM
Registered User
 
carlo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Aken, Germany
Posts: 271
The best known Sportiva cars are of course the red and the silver coupe. The silver car on our photos is the car located in the Arese museum, the red coupe was traded by the museum for one of the first Alfas ever built. It was on the cover of Classic & Sportscar August 1988.
Beside these two coupes there were some more cars:


It will be interesting to find out what version had its own chassis and what version was a development on an existing frame...

And I am always unsure which of these spider we count as Sportiva?




Best regards
Ciao Carlo
carlo is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 38 (permalink) Old 12-01-2007, 10:08 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Denmark
Posts: 1,211
Hej Carlo.
Excuse me I if I provoked you-
My impression ( first picture) is that they are only design sketches. Buy I find it interesting the concern, they had, about the air flow around the front wheel

Second picture must be 750 Competizione. Designed by Boano on a chassis build and designed by Abarth. The engine geometry, I think is interesting. As Alfa returned to a long stroke, where Giulietta was 75x75

The third picture is the Sportiva by Scaglioni/Bertone
2000 touring sp is offline  
post #5 of 38 (permalink) Old 12-01-2007, 11:05 AM
Registered User
 
carlo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Aken, Germany
Posts: 271
Quote:
Hej Carlo.
Excuse me I if I provoked you-
Not at all!!!

I just thought that the Sportiva cars deserve a thread of their own!
Further I think there is still a lot to learn about them.

Quote:
My impression ( first picture) is that they are only design sketches
Here is my argument....



And I think this article from Thoroughbred & Classic Cars July 1986 deserves attention as well. I would be interested at this point to hear John's opinion about the cars and their chassis numbers. Were indeed just four cars built in total?
I have strong doubts about this since a long time, maybe we'll find out here if I'm right - or wrong of course



Best regards
Ciao Carlo
carlo is offline  
post #6 of 38 (permalink) Old 12-01-2007, 04:34 PM
Banned
 
dretceterini's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posts: 6,139
I believe the two coupes in the Rens Biesma drawing from Het K are the same chassis. I believe that trhere were 2 Sportiva spiders, as per the 2 lower drawings by Biesma.

As to the photos in post #3, I believe the upper spider is one of the TWO 750 competizione cars built, and not a Sportiva spider.

Last edited by dretceterini; 12-01-2007 at 04:36 PM.
dretceterini is offline  
post #7 of 38 (permalink) Old 12-01-2007, 04:35 PM
Banned
 
dretceterini's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Posts: 6,139
Quote:
Originally Posted by carlo View Post
Not at all!!!


Here is my argument....



Best regards
Ciao Carlo

Not a design sketch at all, but I belive the two coupes in Rens Biesma's drawings are the same chassis...
dretceterini is offline  
post #8 of 38 (permalink) Old 12-02-2007, 06:35 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 14
The red Sportiva coupe

Here are some pictures of the red Sportiva coupe.

Frank
Attached Images
   
alfavirus is offline  
post #9 of 38 (permalink) Old 02-24-2013, 10:59 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 8
Sportiva coupe

I thought I'd share some photos of the red Sportiva coupe that I took at the 2011 'Vevey Retro' in Switzerland.
Attached Images
   
redranch is offline  
post #10 of 38 (permalink) Old 02-24-2013, 11:00 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 8
...plus a beautiful Alfa Romeo 2' van parked next to it.
Attached Images
 
redranch is offline  
post #11 of 38 (permalink) Old 03-25-2013, 08:15 PM
Senior Member
Gold Subscriber
 
Subtle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Vancouver, B C
Posts: 6,225
Subscribe + +

Bob,
Avatar is the 68 Super, bought new.
Subtle is offline  
post #12 of 38 (permalink) Old 03-26-2013, 04:06 AM
Registered User
 
ybsone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 18
Anyone know the chassis number of the red one?

'00 Alfa Romeo Gtv 2.0 TS Lusso ['Red Style', Grigio Chiaro Met, 916C2B00, AR32301, CF2]
www.bozhdynsky.com
ybsone is offline  
post #13 of 38 (permalink) Old 03-27-2013, 08:43 AM
Registered User
 
Little Italian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Lexington Ky.
Posts: 1,023
Garage
Spotivas

Not being an expert but interested party, Please make it clear to your best knowledge:

There is a red Sportiva and a Silver Sportiva. Correct?

Are there any other Sportivas? How Many?

I'm just confused but I appreciate your help.

......... Bud Feigel ........<Oo \*/ oO>....... Lexington, Kentucky ........
'82 RED GTV6 / 2.5 - '86 WHITE Spider Veloce 2000 - '71 GREEN GTV 1750
Little Italian is offline  
post #14 of 38 (permalink) Old 03-27-2013, 10:54 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 208
The silver car came from Sydney, one of 2 in existence( I think) Its RHD was swapped for another Alfa from the Museum , owner was Lionel ..........?
GTV6SA is offline  
post #15 of 38 (permalink) Old 03-27-2013, 05:05 PM
Registered User
 
tubut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 9,129
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Italian View Post
Not being an expert but interested party, Please make it clear to your best knowledge:

There is a red Sportiva and a Silver Sportiva. Correct?

Are there any other Sportivas? How Many?

I'm just confused but I appreciate your help.
There seems to be a red Sportiva coupe (private collection), a silver Sportiva coupe (Alfa museum) and at least one Sportiva Spider (Alfa museum, see this thread).

-Ruedi
[SIZE="1"]'63 2600 Touring Spider (AR 191437, the car that started the 2000/2600 International Register, reassembly in progress)
ex-'65 2600 SZ (AR 856043, the car in my avatar, sold as resto project to Austria)
Maintainer of a private 2600 SZ register (not the one in the Netherlands).[/SIZE]
tubut is online now  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Alfa Romeo Bulletin Board & Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome