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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-06-2015, 02:27 PM Thread Starter
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New Alfa Museum

Just back from a visit to the new museum. Not sure if this is the correct place to expand on it (still not got my head around the new look web site).
Anyway if anyones interested I have a few pics and an opinion, let me know if you want either.

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Yes, Martin, although several threads about the museum already exist, I think starting your own thread and sharing your pictures and personal impressions would be welcome by many.

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You will have to excuse me rambling on a bit first. Bear with me and it may become clear.

I have never been to a car museum on your side of the pond. Loads in the UK and my share on the continent so I don't know if yours are anything like ours. Over here you get the impression (as you would) that they are put together by enthusiasts of a certain age. Thus many follow similar styles of presentation. A bit of an oily rag section, some as found stuff, a few set pieces all for the most part charmingly placed amongst beaten up original memorabilia stuff. I like them, but up until now have never pondered why they are as they are. The Alfa Romeo Museum has started up some pondering.

Now don't get me wrong I loved the place, really enjoyed myself…but…perhaps a bit, how can I put this… You go out for a drink with one of the old codgers who put together an old style place, I'm guessing the conversation would flow easily and time would fly. If you went for a drink with one of the lads who put together the new Alfa Museum he would spend all night playing with his iPhone.

Alfa had a great collection of cars and they gave them to some whizz multimedia geeks together with a little bit of info. Unfortunately the lads didn't know what questions to ask or whom to ask them of.

Consequence.

The cars are displayed with immaculate precision (but don't you dare get too close), hell even the guides who swoop upon you and wave you off the plinths are wearing silk Armani suits. But data is thin, I didn't see Auto Delta getting a mention anywhere (but then I am a bit deaf).
There was a film bit, this consisted of three very short clips! Then there's the multimedia stuff, swooping coloured background effects as the lights dimmed, bright flaming logo's and blurry old photographs of race drivers of the period. Call me a bore but to my mind these completely overshadowed the cars (see pics).
Towards the end there is there 4D (yes 4D) experience, again don't misunderstand I thought it was great fun. You sit in a small cinema on race seats and experience a 3D graphic as if you are part of a race over three or was it four time periods whilst being jiggled about and blasted with wind and spray (thats the fourthD) almost as if you are part of a computer game. Your kids will love it. Bugger all to do with Alfa Romeo though.

Hope I haven't upset anyone, I'm not trying to be controversial just saying what I see. Perhaps it's just me being old and daft. Do go though, It woke up some of my thinking cells and It does have a great restaurant.

PS I have 14 pics so will have to break up the posts.

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Fair comment about sterile transport museums and the value of people being there who know and have experienced the exhibits in the day. Aviation museums seem particularly blessed in that regard - here in the U.S. In particular you'll get a cadre of old flyers and ground crew taking tours and being available to answer questions.

However in the case of Alfa we now have these cars preserved properly rather than buried in some back warehouse decaying and at risk of being sold off. Some of the cars you've shown are amongst the most iconic and interesting Alfa's of all time. In balance you'd have to say surely that this is the better outcome.

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I have visited perhaps a dozen automotive museums in the US. One thing I feel they uniformly lack is any technical exhibits about the cars. That is, bodies off frames so you can see the chassis layout, descriptions of innovative suspension systems, engines on stands with explanations of how they advanced the field, etc. I find aviation museums do a much better job at this. Perhaps being a scientist I am biased toward the technical, but I feel a mix of the beautiful and the technical makes for a more satisfying experience. These are, after all, transportation machines. In contrast, I found the Computer Museum in Mountain View, California mixed technology with beauty (yes, beauty) very well.

A good technology museum should be equal parts art museum and science museum, two types of beauty in harmony.


My guess is the high visibility museums are run by museum professionals (ie., those with humanities degrees) and not by technical people (engineers, mechanics, pilots, etc.)
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Having visited the Nastasi collection in person, it is even more impressive. Joe graciously opened his doors to some of the New York Chapter members for a morning of drooling and admiring. Keep the photos on my phone as a constant reminder.

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Thanks guys, I was worried some would see me as being negative, not my bag. Its great they are being preserved but some more tech stuff could have easily been achieved to round off what is to my mind a bit of a family fun outing.
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