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Pinin Farina 8C 2900B?

Hello all,

I was wondering if anybody knows more about this Pinin Farina bodied Alfa?

According to "Le Alfa Romeo di Pininfarina" by Anselmi, this would be an 1938 8C 2900B, but looking at the driver's position I can hardly imagine this being true. Without some major adaptions his feet would be right there in the engine compartment, when you take the 8C 2900 dimensions in mind. In other words, this would be the only 8C 2900 I have ever seen where the driver's seat isn't way back there close to the rear axle.
Or could the perspective of the photo be playing tricks on me?

If it will help: according to the capture of the photo in Anselmi's booklet (which is another photo than the attached one, but obviously representing the same event), the people on board are king Vittorio Emanuele and marshal Balbo.
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Hello all,

I was wondering if anybody knows more about this Pinin Farina bodied Alfa?

According to "Le Alfa Romeo di Pininfarina" by Anselmi, this would be an 1938 8C 2900B, but looking at the driver's position I can hardly imagine this being true. Without some major adaptions his feet would be right there in the engine compartment, when you take the 8C 2900 dimensions in mind. In other words, this would be the only 8C 2900 I have ever seen where the driver's seat isn't way back there close to the rear axle.
Or could the perspective of the photo be playing tricks on me?

If it will help: according to the capture of the photo in Anselmi's booklet (which is another photo than the attached one, but obviously representing the same event), the people on board are king Vittorio Emanuele and marshal Balbo.

It looks similar to this model of what is supposed to be a Pininfarina 8c2900, although it looks more like a 6c2300B to me....

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I was wondering if anybody knows more about this Pinin Farina bodied Alfa?

According to "Le Alfa Romeo di Pininfarina" by Anselmi, this would be an 1938 8C 2900B, but looking at the driver's position I can hardly imagine this being true. Without some major adaptions his feet would be right there in the engine compartment, when you take the 8C 2900 dimensions in mind. In other words, this would be the only 8C 2900 I have ever seen where the driver's seat isn't way back there close to the rear axle.
Or could the perspective of the photo be playing tricks on me?
Stu, you're right!
In the PF Catalogue Raisonne the car is shown as 6C2300 Cabriolet.
Description: An unusual version on the long 6C 2300 chassis. Very roomy. Well balanced volumes, two-tone paintwork swallow tail chrome plated moulding. One-off model, Motor Show Paris 1937.
Archivio Pininfarina #240

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I knew it! Thanks for the info guys!

dretceterini, I know that Spider modeled by Alfamodel. It's a real beauty (the real car that is, the Alfamodel would be subject to discussion as far as I'm concerned). Funny thing though, that exactly that Spider is one of the very few missing PF Alfas from the Anselmi booklet.
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I knew it! Thanks for the info guys!

dretceterini, I know that Spider modeled by Alfamodel. It's a real beauty (the real car that is, the Alfamodel would be subject to discussion as far as I'm concerned). Funny thing though, that exactly that Spider is one of the very few missing PF Alfas from the Anselmi booklet.
Most of the Alfa models by Franco De Stasio are pretty much correct, but this model of what is supposed to be a PF bodied 8c2900B doesn't look like any of the PF bodied 8c2900s I'm familiar with (the grey car, plus the red car that is in Schlumpf that once was a conv't). I guess it's supposed to be a model of the grey car, as shown below at Pebble Beach...

Grey car at Pebble Beach:
http://www.cromoclassico.com/eng/peb...n_pb_05_17.jpg

Link to the Schlumpf car, which was once a conv't:
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/atta...-412004-05.jpg

What it looked like when it was a conv't:
http://www.minimuseum.net/Prewar/Kla...ininfarina.jpg

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Most of the Alfa models by Franco De Stasio are pretty much correct, but this model of what is supposed to be a PF bodied 8c2900B doesn't look like any of the PF bodied 8c2900s I'm familiar with (the grey car, plus the red car that is in Schlumpf that once was a conv't). I guess it's supposed to be a model of the grey car, as shown below at Pebble Beach...

Grey car at Pebble Beach:
http://www.cromoclassico.com/eng/peb...n_pb_05_17.jpg

Link to the Schlumpf car, which was once a conv't:
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/atta...-412004-05.jpg

What it looked like when it was a conv't:
http://www.minimuseum.net/Prewar/Kla...ininfarina.jpg
Yes, it's the grey one. Those three PF 2900's are the ones I knew too, but in the Anselmi booklet there are two more.

The Klaxon model are fantasy colors I suppose? From the few photos that I know, the car looked single colored. Which color exactly would be hard to say, I believe that Klaxon themselves present it in red. I have the kit on the shelf by the way, waiting for some time to build it. And quite a few others as well.
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Yes, it's the grey one. Those three PF 2900's are the ones I knew too, but in the Anselmi booklet there are two more.

The Klaxon model are fantasy colors I suppose? From the few photos that I know, the car looked single colored. Which color exactly would be hard to say, I believe that Klaxon themselves present it in red. I have the kit on the shelf by the way, waiting for some time to build it. And quite a few others as well.
I forgot about the top car you pictured and didn't know the 2nd car was PF. As to the car in the Schlumpf Museum, I thought it was always red, even when it was a conv't..

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I didn't know either of them, but had I seen the second car somewhere else before, I would never have guessed that it's a PF.

Thanks again for helping me out!

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Isn't a 2900A the Spider and the 2900B the Coupe?

If not can somebody please educate me .

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Isn't a 2900A the Spider and the 2900B the Coupe?

If not can somebody please educate me .

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I don't have the Simon Moore book handy, so this is off the top of my head...

The A is the early car (about the first 10 cars) and the B is the later car; conv'ts, spiders, and coupes. I'm not sure of the exact differences.

The Tipo 412 is basically an A, but with the motor out of a 12c GP instead of the straight 8 2900 motor.

Depending on the source, from 2 to 4 412s were made. Fusi says 4. Most think only 2.

About 40 cars, including all versions, were made.
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I'm no expert, but this is what I know. Apparently the A was nothing less than a street legal race car. Literaly. The first A's that where sold where rebodied (used!) racers. The later B's had the same engines, but these where downtuned some 40 bhp.
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Isn't a 2900A the Spider and the 2900B the Coupe?

If not can somebody please educate me .

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I thought A was short chassis and B Long... But have to check my (16) Alfa books..

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No, I think A is only short (not 100% sure) but B definitely has both long and short versions.
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8C 2900B Spider Sport Pininfarina

Hi all,

Does anybody know other photos or references about the Spider Sport Pininfarina?

Was it a unique car that became the one in Schlumpf ?

Even some photos about the Schlumpf car would be very helpful, as I plan to build the Klaxon kit, and I don't have too much info about it...

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Hello Jordi,

Try Google. I did a search for the Pininfarina 8C 2900.
This is what came up:
pininfarina "8C 2900" - Google zoeken
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schlumpf "8C 2900" - Google zoeken

Ciao, Olaf

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