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post #16 of 28 (permalink) Old 01-29-2012, 07:24 PM
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TI Super chassis numbers

Thank you "D.A. Bruno" for sharing the chassis number of your car. Do you also have an appropriate engine fitted and ... does it seem to be the original? May we learn the engine number? Do you recall from whom it was that you purchased the car? Any additional history or special details come to mind?

This also reminds us that, after more than three years of teasing, the identity of the subject car of this thread has not been revealed. Perhaps I need to go find the technical thread mentioned that is related to the car? Perhaps that information is there? Here, there has been no chassis number. No engine number. No indication of what Alfa Romeo must have revealed when an inquiry was surely(?) made.

Yeah, I could research the 1964 Milano plate that was revealed early on, and this would surely reveal a number of new details, including the chassis number and the Certificate of Origin date. Perhaps the original engine number(?) and certainly the official early ownership history, but why should I be inspired to invest in this research? As indicated, I have solid leads to learning more about all the cars I listed earlier in this thread. Research on those cars will undoubtedly have implications that might help answer the "matching numbers" question. But, there would be some expense and time involved in such a study. Who is it that cares enough to fund such a study? Who is it that cares enough to share what they've observed in their own car?

Again, I cannot imagine that Alfa Romeo bothered to make the engine numbers match the chassis for these cars. They ceased doing so in about 1935 for their road cars. Prove my imagination wrong!

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Chassis and engine numbers

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This also reminds us that, after more than three years of teasing, the identity of the subject car of this thread has not been revealed. Perhaps I need to go find the technical thread mentioned that is related to the car? Perhaps that information is there? Here, there has been no chassis number. No engine number. No indication of what Alfa Romeo must have revealed when an inquiry was surely(?) made.

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Hello John,

Sorry for that! I didn´t realise that we didn´t mention the chassisnumber.
This car is 595221 from 1964 with engine 00516 00229. After a complete restoration the car has been sold.
The other thread that is refered to is http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/limi...i-super-6.html

Ciao, Olaf

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I'm writing up a short TI Super article for the next Giulia/Berlina newsletter. Will be very general, not going into specifics on any car. The article is pitched at "regular" Giulia and Berlina owners, not TI Super owners and devotees.

One item I wonder. Anyone know a factory price, if there was such a thing, for a TI Super compared to a Giulia TI at the time? I don't recall ever seeing it.

Anyone working on a book, along the lines of Alleggerita? That'd be great, if subject to a more limited market.

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Italian prices from Fusi - all in Italian Lira

elaborazione per corsa = race preparation

Giulia TI Lit. 1,570,000
Giulia Super ('65) Lit. 1,775,000
Giulia TI Super Lit. 2,400,000
Giulia SS Lit. 2,500,000
Giulia Sprint GT Lit. 2,195,000
Giulia GTC Lit. 2,395,000
Giulia Sprint GTA Lit. 2,995,000 + elaborazione per corsa Lit. 2,078,000
Giulia TZ Lit. 3,700,000

2600 SZ Lit. 3,970,000
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Conversion rate in 1965 was 625 lira to 1 dollar.

TI Super would be $3840.

GTA ..$4792

TZ....$5920

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R&T ads listed US TIs at the time at $2995. Maybe different pricing, aside from the conversion rate? Or do you mean TI Super at $3840?
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Fixed........thanks.

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Thanks for the clarification.
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Wat motor is this?

I'm uncertain if TI Supers ever came with the SS motor (see photo). How off the mark would I be to think that some TI Supers came with this as an option or is this a typical Alfa Romeo "Hype"...Demo shot.

It intrigues me looking at this, and what if???

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The double ignition engine in the picture above was built by Romeo Ferraris and Gianfranco Zanoli of Autosalone Massimo at Milano in mid '63.
It is featured in Auto Italiana 28 and 33/34 that year.
The car was a standard Giulia TI with Borrani wire wheels, it's acceleration was 0-100 km/h in 8.1s, 0-1000m in 29.2s and it reached 203 km/h.
Romeo Ferraris has still a preparation shop in Lombardy, Italy.
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Hi

This thread seems very old but I have only recently come across it. Though my TI Super details are logged somewhere I don`t see them on your lists, so here are details;

AR*595494*
AR00516*00509*
Prod date 3 Aug 1964
Sale date 16 Sep 1964
Racing history documented elsewhere

This is the original engine; car Autodelta prepped.

Richard

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Dear Richard,

Thank you for adding the details of your TI Super!

Ciao, Olaf

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