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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 09-07-2019, 04:55 PM Thread Starter
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1958 Giulietta Spider Veloce-

If you want a car that no one can nit pick in any way this is the car for you. Only two previous owners, never rusted or collision damage all original parts replated or refinished. All correct upholstery floor coverings etc. Great fitting new top, matching numbers motor and tunnel case trans and DCO3 carbs and linkage all rebuilt. Show worthy paint, restoration all documented. More photos and information coming soon to classicalfas.com or contact Fred at [email protected]
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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old 09-07-2019, 11:20 PM
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What is the asking price?
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Saw this car at Concorso and it is stunning.
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Thank-you, coming from you that’s a real compliment!
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Fred, more pictures please!
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All members should have common courtesy regardless of their membership status but some do not. Based on the members responsiveness, I would not trust the ad's description or hold my breath regardless of membership status.

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I know of two restored 750 Spiders that sold for $83K last year. The price to restore a 750 Spider can cost $80K and leave very little profit.
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All members should have common courtesy regardless of their membership status but some do not. Based on the members responsiveness, I would not trust the ad's description or hold my breath regardless of membership status.
Serious inquiries will get their answers without a public display of price or any other details and photos of the featured car. This isn't Bring A Trailer. Your post seems a tad salty and vague so I can only respond as my read on it. No agenda here. Someone is going to really appreciate the fact this car showed up here. I have sold three cars here and it was a really good experience.
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Thanks I felt the same way upon reading that. I structure my ads very carefully in an attempt to minimize these types of responses. People who are looking for these cars know more or less what they cost and will contact me as stated in the very first post and I’m happy to respond. Sadly these types of posts make me want to reconsider posting any cars for sale on this forum in the future.
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Great spider

Dear justcallmefred ,

I saw your car at the Concorso Italiano last month, in Monterey.
It's a beautiful car , one of the nicest in that very well presented show.
To preserve and / or restore a Giulietta Spider to that level is no small feat.
I'd guess that you have well over $100,000 invested in the car, and probably quite a bit more.

I believe I'm qualified to say these things because my White Giulietta Spider ( Serial No. 370009 ) was awarded the SCM "BEST IN SHOW" Trophy in the Giulietta / Giulia Class, that day.
To acquire, preserve and restore my car to the level it's at now has taken many years and well over $150,000.

"mooselise" is a relative newcomer to the Alfa BB , but sadly he's not unlike many of the tire kickers that inhabit this website.

On this site, no matter what price you'd name for your car, there would be some backbencher with an "opinion" as to why you were asking way too much.

Most of them will never have a car like yours.
They mostly just want to Blog out their "opinions" which are usually based on no real experience or achievements.

I think you are wise to just let the folks know that your car is for sale and if they are seriously interested they can send you a PM to discuss their interest.

"mooselise" can contact you through the system anytime he wants if he's seriously interested.
It would take no more time than placing the response that he placed.

YOUR CAR IS A GREAT ONE .

GOOD LUCK WITH THE SALE .

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I restored a number of Giulietta cars within the last five years and restoration is expensive. The labor is most expensive part of restoration unless you do it yourself and that is what I did when I restored my 1957 Spider in the early 1970's. I spent much more than the car was worth but, drove it for seventeen years and sold it for more than what I had in the car.

I always say that have fun with your car.
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It seems ludicrous to me that one simple question requesting the asking price of a car advertised on a public forum has generated all this activity. So I feel the need to respond to some of the above comments as follows:

First off, I am not a "tire kicker". In fact, for JWHALFA to make such an assumption without knowing me is quite boorish and presumptuous. I am a retired person and have the financial ability to buy the advertised Giulietta Spider and JWHALFA's spider both and these cars are relatively inexpensive in comparison to cars that I have owned and presently own.

Secondly, it is simply rude to blow off a price request. If you prefer to keep everything hush-hush, one should at least have the common courtesy to simply point out that an email was provided at the top of the post for that purpose and that would have sufficed. But to just ignore the request is rude.

Third, if a car is advertised on a public forum, I believe that that the transaction should not be hidden or swept under the rug. In essence, I do not believe that a seller should post an ad on a public forum only to then convert the entire process into a private sale. If a private sale is what is desired, then it should start and remain a private sale from start to finish. To do otherwise (to me) is not a very transparent or fair practice. And, in fact, many car websites (especially in Europe) do not permit this type of practice and require the asking price be published. I believe this is the better practice.

Fourth, I would not take a backhanded swipe at BAT, which many people like and that has not so good but some good aspects as well.

Lastly, in this case, the "structure of the ad" had nothing to do with the negative "types of responses" mentioned by the seller because the negative response was not was caused not by the ad, but by a simple lack of common courtesy. All the structure of the ad and the resulting activity caused was that it discouraged a serious buyer from proceeding further with the possible purchase of the car.
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Thanks for all the nice compliments on the car I really appreciate it. I would not change my ad one bit if I were to do it over again. Yes Mr. moose Lise I ingnored your first post because you ignored or didn’t think through my ad as I posted it. Just think if you had emailed me all of this would not have been necessary. You can’t come on here and tell everyone how they can and can’t do their thing. This is exactly how I did not want things to go and therefore moderator plus pull my ad and this whole thread down PLEASE
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Folks this thread has made it onto the Moderator radar, albeit at low volume for now.... Everyone please play nicely

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Thanks for all the nice compliments on the car I really appreciate it. I would not change my ad one bit if I were to do it over again. Yes Mr. moose Lise I ingnored your first post because you ignored or didn’t think through my ad as I posted it. Just think if you had emailed me all of this would not have been necessary. You can’t come on here and tell everyone how they can and can’t do their thing. This is exactly how I did not want things to go and therefore moderator plus pull my ad and this whole thread down PLEASE
Fred, don't do that. Giving in on being correct is not virtuous...

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