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post #31 of 54 (permalink) Old 07-21-2019, 07:42 PM
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Dear car owner: my comments are not veiled, thinly or otherwise.

You made a statement about the market price of highly modified GTV and my research uncovered an after-auction post by the winner of a BAT auction that at $66K happened to be the highest price paid for a highly modified, non-race prepped GTV. It is out there for the world to see. As is BAT's chart on GTV auction prices.

Sorry for bringing it to your attention.

Good luck with your sale.
No dog in this fight but these highly modified road cars sell for north of $200k so not sure id take comments on BAT as gospel.

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post #32 of 54 (permalink) Old 07-21-2019, 08:03 PM Thread Starter
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I am open to offers! You didn’t make an offer, you made an unsolicited appraisal for the world to see.
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I am open to offers! 😁 You didn’t make an offer, you made an unsolicited appraisal for the world to see.
Just leave him be. No-one with any sense is paying attention to it. It's a great car and i am sure you will find the right buyer at the right price!

Well done by the way on a quality restoration and for sticking with it!
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Hey folks, let's not turn this into a long drawn out discussion on the value of the car. It's his car and he can set the price. We all know that prices on these cars have been all over the place ad it's really hard to predict a final value.

The seller has been kind, considerate and forthright. If you want to state your opinion, fine. Let's just not grind away on him or each other.

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Its getting late, but the OP could still list it at one of the many auctions occurring in Monterrey next month. Better yet, put some miles on the car, go to various shows (especially Concourso Italiano) or road rallies, make sure to post the results on social media and then list it at one of the Monterrey auction sites in 2020. After a year, you might decide to keep it.
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@cavilry You certainly have been one of the most forthright sellers I have read about. The car is well documented and no mystery. That said, you have the audience of a resto mod...Done!!! Or a classic guy such as myself , thinking... hey for not much money I can do X. I do agree with some of the posters ....the car has to be seen.. good luck!!! (Check my thread out on my spider resto, I am hoping to finish before I die) .
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As a follow-up Ralph Gilles is the head of design for FCA and he and his wife are true Car guys. They not only attended this year’s Cortile at the Pittsburgh Vintage GP but they brought their Resto-Mod Alfa GTV. He is working on a restomod Viper project....
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Agree BAT wasnt kind to you , but dont give up. Not sure who the 40k bidder was, but it kinda killed the mood for a long time. Couple tips, if I may. Redo the photos, make videos of walk around, cold start & driving, spirited in this case. More than one if you can ( i know they are a pain to upload If you have invoices from Terry, add them. His work is of real value to those who know him, add a link to his site for those that dont. To me, its what makes the car stand out over all else, besides being a beautiful color. Good luck with it n happy selling.
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I too have had medium luck on BAT, bought a great Alfa Race car, but did badly when selling a Mini race car - it's a bit of a crap shoot for some models.

Apart from what Peter says i do have a very trusted friend in Pleasanton Ca. who owns "Classic Cars Ltd" - his name is Paul and i have done a few transactions with him over the years and he is a real car guy - check his web site out and give him a call he will give you an honest opinion and a path to go down to get a good result (no affiliation, just like and know the guy !!)

Awesome car, good luck.
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Thank you all so very much for the insight and feedback! I will reach out to Paul and see what he says. I'll also get going on some better photos (thanks BaT "Premium" services).

Apologies if I came across rude in earlier posts...I may be a bit touchy on the subject I wrestled with selling my car for months, then tiptoed around BaT before finally nervously diving in head first. I was pretty darn disappointed and stressed with the results, and the idea of forcing myself to pursue other avenues to sell the car was daunting. Luckily my wife has been supportive and understanding throughout the process and has never once asked me to sell the car...I just know that it's the right decision for the family.

Thanks again, all!
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Cavilry - You have nothing to apologize for. I admire your character and your GTV. Best of luck
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Cavilry - You have nothing to apologize for. I admire your character and your GTV. Best of luck
Couldn't agree more.
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Living in Santa Cruz an obvious choice for you is the auction at Pebble Beach. Good advice I think on toughing up chappie. Millennials whine, and whining is not winning. The WW2 generation just toughed it out, and kept smiling as they kept working. Lots you and I can learn from them. Other people with average pocketbooks have been screwed too. Take a quicker sale for less money or hang onto it for a chance for more. Take your lumps and move on.

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Park it at your parents, and buy a used four door. Honda, Toyota etc. You will age a few years, the remorse will lesson, and you will not regret selling something for mere dollars you put so much into.
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What does the market want more of? restored cars? modified cars/hybrid? I think it changes with time.
Some companies only restore cars to sell, while others only build 'to order' hybrid/modified cars.
The mildly modified cars come with statements like original parts come with the car(wheels, engine etc) to entice the restorer to buy it to turn it back to original. There are tides of original parts flowing around the world where people are trying to reinstate their car to original specifications. Some buyers are buying to enjoy/invest to later pass on to family rarely selling, can easily sell if they really have to the largest possible market to the people that want a restored car/investment car.
Cars like your car highly modified are part of Alfa Romeo culture it sometimes is really popular and sometimes it's not. Since most people want to personalize their car their way using good repairers as you have adds value, so good luck in selling your car.

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Living in Santa Cruz an obvious choice for you is the auction at Pebble Beach. Good advice I think on toughing up chappie. Millennials whine, and whining is not winning. The WW2 generation just toughed it out, and kept smiling as they kept working. Lots you and I can learn from them. Other people with average pocketbooks have been screwed too. Take a quicker sale for less money or hang onto it for a chance for more. Take your lumps and move on.

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Park it at your parents, and buy a used four door. Honda, Toyota etc. You will age a few years, the remorse will lesson, and you will not regret selling something for mere dollars you put so much into.
I regret selling my first Alfa as do many others. You probably will first ignore me, but in two decades wish you had listened.

Writing those checks was tough wasn't it, but you are not alone.
Trust me when I say I am not your typical millennial, whatever that means. I don't believe many people would classify me as whiny...at least I hope not. I can't really state my position any more clearly: I put X into my car and unless I can get Y, I won't sell it. Whether people are willing to pay Y is totally out of my control or, frankly, concern. At some point someone will say "hey, that's the car I want and I'd rather save some money and time by having the work already done!" When that happens, someone will get the car they want and I will get the money I feel is warranted. And if that doesn't happen, provided our circumstances don't change, I'll just enjoy the car on the odd weekend I get to take it out.

I have my daily driver modern car (and I bought my wife her nice comfy SUV) and that's kind of the point, I can't justify a "fun" car that the family can't enjoy together. I was originally looking to sell my 1968 VW Bus I rebuilt myself, but I realized that is something we can all enjoy as a family. The Alfa is my "selfish" car and it's amazing how fast (at least for me) the desire to be selfish fades once you have a child.

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