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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 03-29-2019, 02:42 AM Thread Starter
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another top price sale

https://classicthrottleshop.com/1974...t-junior-1600/

I have heard a rumour that this has sold for close to asking price.

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Well not a restoration, but with some upgrades, not that it needed them (brakes). Well presented.
What did they say 'Without question the 105 series is THE talk of the town'.
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It makes the $105,000 step nose a good buy in my opinion!
It currently listed on car sales.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...SSE-AD-5964714
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Writing "another top price sale" is a bit like saying "all the children in Lake Wobegon are above average".

Once you've observed a lot of sales at a certain price, perhaps you need to accept that it's just the new normal and not a "top price".
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For US buyers, the $100,000 AU$ equals $ USD 70,000. That's in line with what high end dealers are asking for no stories, no excuses cars. Similar condition 101 Veloce coupes are seeing $125+ ask at high end dealers. I said ask not got.
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Writing "another top price sale" is a bit like saying "all the children in Lake Wobegon are above average".
Once you've observed a lot of sales at a certain price, perhaps you need to accept that it's just the new normal and not a "top price".
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We need to keep a record of the top 10 prices of each model and which country it was first delivered and now resides.
For a 1600 GTj I was surprised, but then again it's Australia and I think we have a limited supply of cars for sale in top condition (maybe any condition) as I mentioned before
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Wow! If someone’s paid 120k for that......

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Wow! If someone’s paid 120k for that......
The sales were impressive given that while well done, not a Concours car.
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What's the reason behind such high prices down under?
Can you not import?
In Europe such car would struggle to obtain half of what's mentioned here.
No offense towards the car but the 1600 GT junior is considered one of the lesser attractive models.
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What's the reason behind such high prices down under?
Can you not import?
In Europe such car would struggle to obtain half of what's mentioned here.
No offense towards the car but the 1600 GT junior is considered one of the lesser attractive models.
I amNot sure which planet you’re on but step fronts are very rare

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I amNot sure which planet you’re on but step fronts are very rare
This thread is about a smooth nosed 1600GTj, not a step front.

I would imagine that a relatively original smooth nosed 1600 is a pretty rare car now as most would have been cut up to support the restorations of others and/or turned in to 2 litre race cars and bounced off many walls. If I bought this car, I would remove the unnecessary hoon parts and return it to a very tidy original 1600GTj. The modifications reduced the price IMO, especially because it still has a slow sized engine.
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My Bad ..I thought he was referring to the Step Front

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I think in general, the Aussie classic car market is routinely below other parts of the world regarding prices.
Just my personal observation with various marques and racing cars I’m interested in.

The Alfa above was sold through the Classic Throttle Shop. They always ask top end prices. They have been in business for a number of years, so must be “doing it right.” I have no affiliation with them, but do know a regular customer of theirs.

If you search Carsales at the moment you will see there are a number of 105 coupes to choose from. Some look particularly nice for the money.
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This thread is about a smooth nosed 1600GTj, not a step front.
I would imagine that a relatively original smooth nosed 1600 is a pretty rare car now as most would have been cut up to support the restorations of others and/or turned in to 2 litre race cars and bounced off many walls. If I bought this car, I would remove the unnecessary hoon parts and return it to a very tidy original 1600GTj. The modifications reduced the price IMO, especially because it still has a slow sized engine.
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Pete is correct, as mentioned these cars have culturally not been favored as desirable and thus have been cut up, ..
Just tally up how many used spare body parts you purchased over the years, each one of those came from a car that does not exist any more!
So now you want a 105, guess what? there are fewer GT1600 (and 1300 GTj smooth nose cars:I have one of the few listed RHD cars in 105 register) making them extremely rare! May be fewer that the 1750's and 2L and others. There are 15 1600GTJ RHD listed in the 105 register and 4 are in Australia.

If you are paying $120k you want something that works, reliable, looks good, stylish, cool, and wait for it, no one else has one, at least in that colour as there are only a couple left in Australia! (I did point this out previously with reference to my 1300GTj in a public forum, obviously some one was listening and did their home work before buying the 1600GTj!)
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Interesting point Steve, I also think colour may have been one of the factors for a higher price for this car. It went through a phase of being undesirable while resale red was hitting its straps but now this colour is looked upon favourably.

Same in the Montreal world, metallic brown was poo-pooed for a while but now has a growing list of admirers!

For me the first model of any series should be be close to either the most valuable or sought after as I have a great respect for cars that are as the designer envisaged them. Sometimes the first revision can be slightly better as it is usually just a refinement to that model.
Too many variations down the years generally dilutes that vision as the manufacturer tries to stretch the sales out of each model.

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